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Edited by Raevenent: 6/30/2019 9:50:50 AM
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Thing is, some people are just unteachable, I've done my fair share of teaching and have seen some just unteachable no matter how hard you try and that's rather very taxing mentally especially if you're in the raid longer than you'd hope or want to, I've had to teach 3 guys in CoS one time, we beat it barely after being on the boss for about 5 hours, but I was rather very exhausted afterwards. The most I'm willing to teach is 2 and no more than 2, however if those 2 have bad loadouts for raids, then that gets narrowed down to 1, my group and I can carry 2 depending on the raid(Last Wish is a good example, you can have 2 people not know how to puzzle properly at Shuro Chi, cleanse at Morgeth, and read vault), but if 2 have bad loadouts then only 1 can go and the other will have to wait his or hers turn. 3 is a bit iffy. I've learned this with Monster Hunter the hard way(Thanks Arch-Temp Nergigante) and I think this analogy can apply here, sure you can have the best set up for X, you may have the best means to put out that damage, but what good is that damage if you can't execute the mechanics properly? Here's why I can pretty much never sympathize with anyone who says "Oh I've been kicked from a raid I'll never do one ever again". Did you know what's going on? Do you know what you were doing? Were you being an asshole? Was the group leader an asshole? Were you being a jackass? Was the group leader a total jackass? Did you lie your way in just to raid? If you were being an asshole, a jackass, or lie about knowing how to do a raid, then you 110%, deserved that boot. Especially lying about your experience, people can get angry about that, I know that shit drives me up a wall. "But it's only game." I don't know about you but I for one do not like being lied to or have my time wasted, if that's what you enjoy then great, I'll have no part of it. Also, it does help that the student also does his or her fair share of homework on how to do said raid. "What? I'm not going to watch a guide! I'd rather learn as I play! -blam!- youtube and blah blah blah" Yeah ok, I'd rather learn as I play too but if it's a group activity like a raid, and everyone has to pull their own weight, which you should ALWAYS ASSUME when going into a raid you've never done before, then reverse the rolls around, I'm the student, you're the teacher, then I'm going to do my homework on it so I know what's going on, and ask for clarity when I actually do it, [B]show me how to do it, so I can do it properly[/B] some people want to do it blind, that's cool to, make a team saying you want to do it blind with others, don't join a group that has a general idea of how to do the raid, and you be the only one who hasn't watched it cause you wanted to do it blind.
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  • I try not to put too much blame on any one person in a situation where someone gets kicked from a raid. Sometimes it might be that the teacher wasn’t the right fit for the student and sometimes it might be that the student didn’t want to learn. But you are right, if the person learning doesn’t actually want to learn then they shouldn’t be in the raid. I can teach someone who has watched video as long as they aren’t stuck on the one method from the video, but instead used the video to learn the basics of the mechanics in play. It’s why I prefer a learner come in fresh, too many times where I’ve taught a raid and one person watched a video where “x group did x strat” and that person complains the entire time that we aren’t doing that strat, even after our strat works. I’ll still teach that person, but I won’t call them in for other raids.

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