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#feedback

10/19/2017 12:11:06 AM
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The World has gone soft, D2 shows that.

The world has gone soft, gone of the days where if you are bad at something, you keep trying and get better. Now, every-one wants a medal, no matter what no one can feel left out, if you loose you must get a reward or its unfair? Seriously.. we are bringing our kids up in a world where they think they deserve things when they dont put effort in and practice, practice, practice. This game has taken that on bored, take The Prestige Raid for example, the gear is "Cosmetic and will give no advantage, here at bungie we did not want players to feel left out if they could not pass the raid" So why should the players that can actually pass the end game content, that you work hard on creating get pretty much nothing for doing it? Why do we have to deal with this just because some players dont want to feel left out are you serious? What is the incentive for the people that can clear the prestige raid? we get a pretty little sticker to say yay look at me.. come on Bungie! Are you not even going to put Perks on the Prestige gear that will give us an Advantage in the raid at all? Us as Humans are already quite entited these days, is this really a good way to bring our children up? "Dont worry if you loose little Jimmy, you still get a medal" why would Little Jimmy even try then? he knows hes going to be rewarded either way. If i was bad at something that i wanted to succeed in i was always told to practice, practice until you are good enough for the rewards. Until then, Its really just to bad. I just feel we are going way to soft on everything and Bungie has picked up on that. All i want Bungie and alot of other players like myself, is something really hard to beat, that does offer good rewards and advantages, i dont want to be some OP lunatic or anything, a slight advantage for completing ball breaking activities would be nice though.
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    Yeah this game sucks

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    • If you want to be ruthless about people not being good enough, then fine. It's 'lose', not 'loose', 'board', not 'bored', and the words 'perks', 'humans' and 'advantage' should not be capitalised. Or, we could all cut each other a little slack when we're not perfect.

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    • You present an argument that states a 'participation trophy' is a house-hold occurrence at this point and that players are expected to be compensated for their time spent in a game, yet proceed to present a plea for a change that introduces positive rewards to compensate time spent in the game but exclusive to the more challenging sections. Am I getting that right?

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    • Except this is entertainment media that has to be purchased before it can be used. People have a right to reasonable expectation when it comes to purchased products (toothbrushes with bristles, diapers that are not pre-loaded with sh*t, etc). [b]I'm not saying participation trophies are the answer[/b], but a business model that says "you're all going to pay the same amount, but some of you will get less product/access than others" is surefire way to kill your brand. Guided Games is proof that Bungie is aware of this issue. [b][u]This isn't real life accomplishment[/u][/b], raid completion is not equivalent to being promoted at work, it's very important that people be able to distinguish between reality and fantasy. Its a product, a video game, designed to make money when (and after) you buy it and the best way to do that is by making your product as broadly appealing as possible and as accessible as possible, to as many people as possible. Bungie was trying to do this, but like most things related to Destiny, they completely and utterly failed. It's not an issue of "going soft" its an issue of Bungie having no f*#@ing clue how to tailor the experience to casual [i]and[/i] hardcore players.

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      • Speaking of entitlement...wanting something special just because you did it on "hard mode" qualifies. The journey itself is the reward...expecting to be specially compensated for reaching the destination is still entitlement, just an elitist version.

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        • I blame Trump!

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        • Upvoted after I read the first line. God forbid people actually have to work to achieve something.

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        • While I agree the raid gear should have something unique about it that helps in the raid only, ask yourself how much did anyone really use that gear in the past? We all used Oracle weapons because it made a huge difference. After that no one used raid gear in the raids. Some people did here and there and yes every raid has had a couple weapons that are quite good. The Crota helmet had a good perk, but wasn't needed. The Taken King boots were helpful, but not needed. Wrath of the Machine had good arms when fighting fallen and because they worked in the whole game they were common. All I'm really saying is that everyone is mad over it but why does it matter other than principle? Most of you will never use it and it will sit in your vault lol. But you're spot on with the entitlement and not hurting feelings softness now days.

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        • Preeeeeeeach my guy 🙌

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        • Your head is soft

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        • Genuinely not trying to pick hear but you want perks put on the loot from completing the activity that gives you the loot to make it easier even thou you already beat it without them?? But everyone else has gone soft lol

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        • Drinking straight gin all alone in the middle of the woods logging this weekend. The world around me has gone Charmin 2-ply soft

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        • Money plane and simple. They want the game to be very open and the end game to be inclusive why? So little Timmy Casual Kevin keep playing even if that -blam!-s the hardcore people. Odds are they game will only stay this way for this first section. Just wait and see DLC 1 will be right back to the raid gear being super special and the end game being more exclusive it is only this way now to hook new players who would have been daunted by starting Y4 destiny.

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        • I think if you aren't playing to win, then you shouldn't be playing at all. The incentive isn't the reward, you play to win. Every time I load up a crucible match, I play to win. Every time I load up Iron Banner, I play to win. Winning means more in Iron Banner than it does in the Crucible; there's the endgame PvP. I know that may seem to contradict, but it doesn't. Winning is success, and success is fun. In the past, there never was a reward for playing video games, you played for fun. I think its time the Destiny community realized that grinding is ultimately meaningless. You play for fun, and if you don't have fun, stop playing. There is something to do though, make no mistake. Whether or not the rewards are worth it is subjective. I wonder how many people are going to get a full Prestige raid gear set. Not many I suppose. And those that do will feel Elite after all is said and done, at least I would. I don't suspect I will be getting that far, but its not on my end, in my opinion. Raids are a team based activity, everyone has to pull there weight, and getting a good group isn't easy. In the end, most of the criticism about power lever, etc. is quite shallow indeed.

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        • stop drinking or smoking you will be fine

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        • Let me guess white male over 40 years old?

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          • I agree

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          • Bump

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          • I think the best part of this thread is that all the heroes making sweeping statements about entitled pansies and whatnot are flying their snowflake flags high over whether a video game is hard.

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            Wow man I 'm sorry for you that your parents didn't love you. What must have happened to you to be full of hate and anger ?

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            • Destiny 1 = Trump Supporters Destiny 2 = The far left

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              • They should start giving Raid emblems and raid gear just for “trying your best” lol No need to clear it, just give it your best effort and rewards are doled out just the same for a wipe as they would get for a win!

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                • Idk man, King's Fall heroic had Harrowed gear which was purely cosmetic, same with Wrath. But I'm disappointed there doesn't seem to be a fusion rifle, sidearm, or grenade launcher in this raid at all? Lol

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                  • Just to play devil’s advocate, why should you get an advantage in the raid after completing it? Isn’t this exactly the entitlement that you are referring to? Do winning sports teams get an advantage over past losers? How does it make sense to make the activity easier for someone that’s completed it already instead of practice, practice, practice? Also, why should Bungie even bother with raids since 90-95% of their player base isn’t participating? We’re lucky that one even exists at this point... I agree that raid rewards are sub par as is the reward system in general but felt compelled to point out the irony of your argument.

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                    • You want an advantage in what?

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