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9/24/2017 8:47:11 PM
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I find it hard to have fun in crucible these days...

Before I start I want to say this isn’t a hate post. I don’t plan on boycotting the game or telling Bungie that they’re the worst company in the buisness. I’m just curious if anyone else doesn’t enjoy crucible like I do. I will say I am not as big a fan of crucible as I was in D1. It’s not that I’m bad right now cause I usually give off 1.0+ KDA in crucible but just something seems off. I don’t enjoy many maps (particularly Vostok and the Trials one). I also have a hard time competing with MIDA. I do have one but I never really liked the gun anyways in D1 so I hate that I feel like I HAVE to use it to compete. Also I do hate supremacy but am forced to play it all the time. Lastly, it’s been a while since I’ve gone on a good super kill streak. It almost seems like I have to play stormcaller or something to achieve that. Idk. TL;DR: I don’t enjoy the maps, hate competing with MIDA, and supers aren’t as rewarding. I’d like to hear other people’s thoughts.

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  • same the weekly milestone for crucible is more of an annoyance for me than anything.

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  • one word: antiope-d

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  • The problem is the time to kill. It's too high. Having this high of a ttk means that to kill effectively you should be teamshotting. In order to team shot effectively, people group up very close and hold an advantageous position. Normal counters to such strategy would include area of effect damage such as grenades, or flanking to try and isolate and enemy. However, grenades have been neutered in both effectiveness and quantity rendering most of them useless, did you land a clutch grenade on a group of three people? Too bad it only does forty damage and years of experience that tell you push after landing what should be such an effective move result in you doing forty damage to three people and getting teamshot. Did you pull off a great sneaky flank and you have an open shot? Too bad, the time to kill is so high that even if you manage to kill one person the rest of the team will be alerted to your presence and teamshot you before you can make an escape. Maybe it would work if you had a sniper rifle but too bad xx420slayer picked up the power ammo and got teamshot trying to run in and melee a group of four with a sword. Hey did you manage to win a rare 1v1 engagement? Lol Jk it wasn't a 1v1 his teammate just spawned behind you and killed you while you were still weak. Destiny two has removed most of your individual impact on your team and big plays, big moments and personal satisfaction in favor of well. Teamshotting because the time to kill is too high for anything else to be effective [b]Consistently[/b] Can you do well? Absolutely. Can you get a thirty kill game? Absolutely. Is it fun? Well that's the question isn't it. I played destiny one for three years and for all of my misgivings and criticisms at least I could say I had fun and I felt like my playstyle mattered. If you like to camp corridors and teamshot noobs with scouts then you will be happy and love it! If you want to play any other way? Too bad. Git gud L2 team scout. The fact that auto rifles also effectively render hand canons and pulse rifles second teir is not great either. But that is another matter entirely.

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    • I play this and I just keep thinking there is no way most regular players are enjoying getting mud stomped like this and there's no way everyone has 3 people to just roll with at all times I've seen a lot of polls out there and so far all favor 6v6, so I hope Bungie takes note

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    • its fun. if not for you, move on to another shooter

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      • No offense intened here but how long can you run around in circles shooting each other without getting bored?

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        • Maybe don't rush.

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        • Ran around with fighting lion and smg laughing as I killed people ( I got the kills not the assist) also set a goal of going positive with nothing but a sword..... And I did! Got a 1.09 Kd if I remember right. Point is make fun for yourself. Get a team and make fun loadouts and set a goal to win with it! Good luck [spoiler]don't worry about your Kd or kda [/spoiler]

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        • I don't like the fact that you have to roam the map holding your teammates ball sacks to get kills... you can't 1v2 like in D1. There isn't that many weapons to choose from either. I'd love to use the vigilance wing but what's that I hear across the map? Oh its just a clan of 4 with midas and uriels gift...

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        • Edited by BIGRAT42_: 9/26/2017 5:55:10 PM
          I agree 100% but I also hate the unbalanced grenades. I used to run fusion grenades (sticky grenades) and stick people all the time. Now they don't do shit!!

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        • First I want to say I played over 500 hours of D1 crucible and already D2 crucible is becoming unbearable to play already. It's boring and repetitive and in no way exciting for me. The time to kill is way to long Supers are weak and all spammed towards end of every match Maps are boring and have no flow I'm sick of playing clash and supremacy It's difficult to flank with the constant team shooting and camping with scouts in back of spawn The overall speed is just slow compared to D1 Limited game modes I CAN'T EVEN CHOOSE THE GAME MODE I WANT TO PLAY!!!!! Matchmaking is horrible Power Weapon damage is inconsistent Competitive mode matches are too long and redundant... That's just a few things that bug me.

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          • Destiny 1's crucibe was so chaotic but that's what made it fun. I don't really feel that with D2. TTK is a tad bit longer and can be what causes you to lose guns fights because a 1v1 become 1v2 due to how long it takes to kill someone. Make it 6v6 bring back the chaos.

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          • Its fun for about 2 matches then I realize how I feel like a total pussy running with 3 others to such degrees so that I don't get nonstop teamshot. I break off alot tho and the satisfaction level is so much greater. But overall it's no where near the enjoyment of the original crucible Original crucible beats the living hell out of this.

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          • The weapon system is super boring. No more shotgun rushers, snipers sitting back, fusion rifles getting nerfed, or side arm pros. Now it's just bland primary gunfights that has just turned into teamshooting. No more solo lone wolf style of gameplay or crazy killstreaks topped off with a super being unleashed on 6 INNOCENT GUARDIANS. Now it's 4v4 boring game modes. Sad. [spoiler]trump voice[/spoiler]

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          • D1 crucible was superior to this trash. D2 feels cartooney and the hit detection is off. The maps are utter garbage. The maps in D1 were great. I even take sector 618 over the maps they have. 4v4 all the time blows. I played D1 a few days ago and it was fun and I was blown away by how much better the crucible plays. Bungie messed up

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          • Crucible sucks. Heres what i miss, hitting a flank, tossing a pulse nade on two enemies who dont know im there, finishing them both off with a monte carlo for that double kill, popping 3 supers in a match because i was capping flags and winning 1v1s, getting up close with hand cannons, fusion rifles, power ammo once and only once a game, and playing solo but 6v6. Heres d2 pvp: Camp alleyway with teammates and scout rifles. Its so bad.

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          • I basically despise pvp but find I do better when I remember to play my guns range and my strengths. I do better with a scout, as long as I play mid to long range. If you use guns outside their intended range you're gonna have a bad time. I know because I try a lot for some stupid reason. Because if my play style which is more passive I get wrecked typically in close range

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          • Only 1.0? Maybe there's a reason for complaints

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          • Did you mean a 1.0 kd? Cuz 1.0 kda is pretty bad.

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          • teamshoot teamshoot teamshoot god damm. i cant kill a person without getting hit from 3 directions. Or getting hit in the back after killing someone. Its rubbish. The small map design and forced 4v4 crap. Leave 4v4 to competitive/trials. 6v6 for quickplay. Sometimes ppl just want to have crazy chaotic fun in a bigger map with more players.

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          • It's just so repetitive an boring. After an hour or so it's just dull. Destiny 1 was frustrating and had it's terrible moments but I never felt this bored.

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          • Mida is not the cause but mida is just the symptom. Because pvp becoming 4v4, poor map design, weak melee, weak grenade, weak gun, radar are slow up and forget trying to ambush or flanking because high time to kill that promotes 2-3 players holding hands and team shooting as the most effective tactic at the moment. Hence then only way other play style or to counter is to stay at range and the most effective weapons to use for these distant are pulse rifles and scout rifles. Pulse and scout that can dish out more rounds and deal decent amount of dmg per sec would be the most prefer choice. Now Mida has a fast firing rate and does hurts enough, it keeps the radar up, increase movement, easy to obtain, good stats, also it already well known and many players had used it before from D1 make it and easy choice to pick up and use without or less learning curve to the gun. Mida is the jack of all trade but actually master of none as it was named the multi-tool, when use out from it sweet spot it gets wreck by any other gun in their zone. I like that they gave hi caliber back that it would be more useful in flinching majors in pve. Mida is not the problem but the by product of all the other problems with pvp at the moment. Nerf it to the ground and the Prosecutor or Uriel's gift will take it place and the cycles keep on going until in the end the worst gun in the game will become the best gun in the game (pvp). If most vocal players and streamers really think that the only solution is to destroy Mida to solve the current problem then please. Bungie, please make a crucible forbidden mark on guns people complains and whines about, so you can temporary remove the gun from pvp but it still can be use in other activities as usual until we all have thought out the best way to fix it and balance it. Thanks for reading.

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          • Crucible is garbage man.time to kill os to high.im trying to git good with the trials pulse rifle because its sexy af.. but i get out gunned alot so i pull out my auto rifle lol

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          • I miss the D1 crucible maps

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          • Vostok can go die in a hole

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            • I've said this since day one: we have too much health in pvp and it's just promoting camping and teamshots.

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