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Edited by Wolfpack, CEO Of Crimson:
9/16/2017 11:41:28 PM
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Something needs to happen about the raid
Bungie I love the ideas u guys had when the raid was in the making, its something new and different but, the loot system sucks u don't get rewarded after spending hours on top of hours on one encounter, the gardens is buggy with royal beasts walking backwards and off their paths, Calus' fight is just pure stupidity and cheapness in a physical form, I love raids but this one is just a disgrace to the raiding community and just the destiny community in general, plz fix the raid bungie this raid has soooo much potential and u guys missed it
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Calus always rewards something after defeated and between the tokens from each encounter + the 3 chests you open in underbelly you should be able to rank up Benedict twice. That's at least 3 pieces of raid armour or raid weapons + if you're lucky you can get stuff from the other encounters as well. First time I ran VoG from start to finnish I got ascendant materials. That's it.
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15 RepliesEdited by KaplanKrunch597: 9/18/2017 8:13:09 AMYou get tokens for completing the each checkpoint. You turn the tokens after completing the raid to get *guaranteed* gear for every X tokens. You can spend your tokens as you get them for each character or save them up and spend them on a single character. Instead of relying on RNG to *maybe* give you a good reward out of a chest, you can get guaranteed rewards for whichever character you like. How is that worse than D1 other than it means needing to exercise a little patience?...
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3 Repliesthe bugs aren't really an issue,. there aren't really many of them the biggest issue are the gaurdians that fail to learn from their mistakes and keep making them. the biggest difficulty in the raid is your fireteam. you cannot, you absolutly CANNOT PULL 1 SHITTY ASS GAURDIAN THROUGH IT. nobody can fail at anything.
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I'm confused by this, everyone in my team finished the raid and got several pieces of loot plus the clan engram, so I feel like people don't understand how loot works in this raid.
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Is there an option for "this is a biased and stupid poll"? I enjoyed the raid, it wasn't that hard (mostly because everybody just looks up how to do it on YouTube), the aesthetics of it are stunning, and the lore implications of it breathe even more life into the story and opens up future possibilities.
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2 RepliesIt just takes experience and practice, just did my third character tonight and the entire run took maybe 2 1/2 hours, with about 15-20 minutes of that being waiting for people that d/c or had to afk, and we had 1 person that had never run any of the raid at all. Once you actually know what you're doing for each section, it goes much smoother, still frustrating and annoying at times, but it does get easier.
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Edited by BOSS_TPH76: 9/17/2017 9:47:15 AMCallus fight...would have been fun....if it weren't for: Psions spawning in to the shadow realm already shooting their psionic blast before you can damage or stagger them. If it weren't for being sucked through a barrier you were standing against while the other team mates have no issues. For two the same symbols displaying in the shadow realm at the same time. For NO symbols displaying in the shadow realm. For NO primary or secondary ammo dropping between phases. The entire raid is an exercise in "meh". Great ideas....poor execution....piss poor mehanics.
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3 RepliesI think it's fine, it's just new and we don't have the mechanics down to a science yet. Just wait soon there will be a video of a fireteam of 3 doing it in like an hour, just like with every D1 raid. I mean I was in a party with my buddy who was doing it with a group and I think they got It done in a little over 2 hours. The good strats and setups aren't out yet. Be patient, you and everyone else will get it done once all the god PvE players tell us the easiest and fastest way to do it, just kinda how it works k9nda been like that with every raid. Otherwise take you time and deal with it how it comes because clearly so many people can't do it right now and it's how it always been. *ps I played every part of d1 since beta with over 2k hours I know how things were*
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3 Repliesits designed around false difficulty and the bugs and glitches make it worse its the same reason they added timers to nightfalls, a false sense of difficutly you can make a raid both difficult and enjoyable and bungie did not succeed in this
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The raid today is more glitchy and broke than ever I'm seeing g videos of dogs teleporting on the overwatchers rock location I'm watching a video of when you kill all dogs there is a chance they will become a self res dog somehow
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Edited by WulfPak666: 9/18/2017 11:53:50 AMI will agree that the Dogs are glitchy as all get out, but Calus isn't that bad. Only real problem our team found was the Psion grenades if you stay in the Minds Eye, but once your team has a spot on firing squad mentality, the Psions don't even have time to finish their spawn in animation. Other than that, Calus is actually fairly easy. But if you play with an LFG team.. jumping Jesus... It's like nobody knows how to speak up. lol
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6 RepliesAnyone know the secret to not getting pulled over the wall in the purple mind zone? I'm not talking about the mechanics or the other psions that throw grenades to knock you into the air or the little chunks of floor that act like a ramp. I'm talking about when you get pulled to another wall and just randomly bounce off and over it regardless of walking, running, sliding, jumping, or simply allowing yourself to get pulled forward. Because myself, and every team I played on couldn't figure it out
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They clearly tested the raid to remove any attempts at cheesing then shipped it. Consistency is out the window, especially on dogs and calus. Ive had dogs start sprinting for no reason. Ive had psions duck behind cover and lob grenades as soon as they spawn in. Ive had the barrier not show up in time despite outside not messing up. Ive had calus not display the symbol in time. Ive been sucked in because there was a slight bump in the floor (not a ramp) ive had detonating psions after they definitely die. But god help us if we figure out a way to cheese a fight am I right?
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8 RepliesEdited by Just1MoreRaid: 9/17/2017 6:14:30 AMOmg. Fix ur raiid bungo. My 255 light friends couldn't carry me through it; and I don't have the paciente to finish the whole thing; so I can't turn my tokens in. Please, try to actually contribute something half-decent to the forums.
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I see this right underneath a post saying the game is too generous and there's nothing to do lololol
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The Pleasure Forrest is the dumbest piece of shit fight I've seen so far. DESTINY IS NOT A -blam!-ING STEALTH GAME, -blam!-ing GTA has a better stealth system than this shit. The dogs randomly turn around when they shouldn't, as well as stop for no reason or just randomly freak out and run when they haven't even spotted anyone.
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14 RepliesI cannot get my head around the whole no checkpoint thing. What the hell were they thinking. Don't punish people with limited play time!
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1 ReplyThe Calus fight is straight up ass. Psions not spawning when they should, the barrier in the dimension area failing to be a barrier at all and just pulling you straight through it, Psions in the dimension area still throwing grenades even as they die, Psions in the dimension blowing up even after death; it's just all around TERRIBLE. I haven't personally ran any of the raid, other than exploring the underneath and getting asked to help with the Calus fight by clan members/friends, and my experience with that fight makes me not even want to bother.
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I've been enjoying this raid. The problem most people have is a lack of patience.
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3 RepliesWe were being brought into the Shadow Realm with no barrier (yes the entire FT!). Then I was one hit with the bosses laser beam... Then while in the Shadow Realm psions lunge their air flying attack after dying lol After hit Psonic bubbles they immediately reappear I can really go on and on, but it's been an eventful experience
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Can you add an option in the poll for "get good"?
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Bump!
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1 ReplyFix your connection bro
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5 RepliesCheckpoints are needed - for Guardians with less play time available, to them. Seriously, this needs to happen otherwise people just won't bother. 🙄 Oh, and fix the loot to make it an actual 'rewarding' experience, otherwise - what's the point?! 🤖
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1 ReplyCalis fight is really pissing me off the psions are so buggy sometimes...
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3 RepliesI had fun. Got like 5 pieces of gear that upgrade me even more.
