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Edited by ECCHO SIERRA:
5/30/2017 6:26:59 AM
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A fetus is and isn't a person, thanks liberals
"I don't want a baby"
"No problem, it's not a human being so we can "extract it" right out of there, doesn't matter if you're 8 months pregnant!"
>woman can be charged with fetal abuse for alcohol/drugs during pregnancy
>killing a pregnant woman is two murder charges
Nope nothing inconsistent here
[i]bonus round, damaging the egg of an endangered species is illegal[/i]
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Because some people want to argue with me "no you can't get an abortion after x amount of time" here's this. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/06/18/us/politics/abortion-restrictions.html
According to the new York Times, as of 2013 at least, 9 states and the district of Columbia do not ban abortions after a certain amount of time. Unless I'm mistaken, it's not like you have to live in one of them to get it done. You can travel there from your less abortion friendly state, then leave.
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People need to just stop caring about morals so much. Yes obviously a fetus counts as life, so if you get an abortion you are in fact killing your child, your own flesh and blood. Don't try to hide behind women's rights and shut to protect your own sense of false morality. That just makes you hypocritical trash. Just accept the fact the murder is okay sometimes, War, death penalty, abortion. If your wife loses the remote. Accept murder is fine.
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dun wery its gon b k
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5 RepliesIf you don't like abortions, don't have one, and support initiatives that reduce the need for them. Simply being judgmental isn't going to help.
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16 RepliesEdited by kellygreen45: 5/31/2017 12:10:37 AMThe point is that----as long as a fetus is dependant upon a woman's body for its survival----you can create some egregious human rights violations by attempting to legislate individual morality. If you believe that abortion is immoral, that is your right....and you have the right to decide whether or not you or your family ever has one. But when you start insisting you have the right----in a free-and-secular society---to tell other people what their moral code should be...and what they have the right to do nor not do with their bodies if they are of legally sound mind.... ....and put the power of the STATE behind it....then we have a big problem. Because the reality of the world in which we live is that once you start imbuing some thing that cannot exist independently with "rights"....you'd better be prepared for its rights...and the rights of the person whose body its dependant up on to come into conflict. ..and once we start categorically choosing the rights of the fetus over the rights of the woman...then it is a VERY sharp, VERY slippery slope to "The Handmaid's Tale."
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10 RepliesNobody is going to point out that the mother's intent is a huge, important variable here? If you kill a mother that has not yet aborted her child, yes it's treated as a double homicide as she, as of that point, was still intending to carry to term (as evidenced by the fact the fetus was not yet terminated). If a mother is carrying to term and proceeds to drink/endanger her fetus otherwise, yes it's abuse as she's actively damaging the eventual life as opposed to simply terminating it. And while I'm personally not necessarily in favor of late/partial birth abortions, it's not like banning abortion has ever helped since women seek them regardless. You want to limit abortions? Educate safe sex practices instead of abstinence (which has been shown to not work countless times), and make contraceptives more available via clinics, high school/college nurses offices, and other such means. Studies have shown that unwanted pregnancies drop significantly when folks are better educated about sex and provided with a means of preventing pregnancies. The price of a few condoms is much cheaper than providing government help to new children anyway.
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28 Replies8 months pregnant? I think you outta check out facts rather than pro life propaganda next time.
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5 RepliesIf abortion is made illegal it won't decrease the number of abortions it will increase the number of unsafe ones.
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Let me just take a moment to give a couple -blam!-s. Looks like I ran out of -blam!-s to give. What a shame.
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https://youtu.be/i2nuHEGhwiw Not according to Norman Reedus.
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13 RepliesAt the end of the day its none of your -blam!-ing business
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13 RepliesThe point of this post is as follows. Abortion is legal for any unborn child. Rarity aside. Killing a pregnant mother counts as two counts of murder. According to the law, it is possible to abuse fetuses. This is a double standard.
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1 ReplyI think abortion is abhorrent and entirely immoral. I also think that prohibition of abortion is not a possible solution. We tried prohibiting alcohol with horrendous results. Other countries in the past like Romania attempted to ban abortions leading to women starving themselves, drinking excessively, poisoning themselves, and injuring themselves to induce miscarriages which led to a large number of malformed babies. I don't support state funded abortions in any way, but I don't support making abortions illegal either. It's a tricky situation.
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10 RepliesThis is stupid. Your acting like the people who say that a fetus isnt a person are the same people who wrote the laws saying killing a pregnant woman is double homicide. Also im pretty sure this is the second time you did this thread, why don't you just stop, you're getting straw everywhere.
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39 RepliesEdited by Gandhi 2: 5/29/2017 1:02:14 PM[b][i][u]YOU CANNOT GET AN ABORTION AFTER EIGHT MONTHS[/u][/i][/b] Edit: Oh, man. I was completely and entirely wrong [i]and[/i] I missed the point of the OP. I agree with OP, props to him/her/it.
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8 RepliesEdited by ReignofSpartain: 5/28/2017 4:13:50 AM[quote] Hey everybody, did the news get around About a guy named Butcher Pete Oh, Pete just flew into this town And he's choppin' up all the women's meat [Chorus] He keeps hackin' and whackin' and smackin' He keeps hackin' and whackin' and smackin' He keeps hackin' and whackin' and smackin' He just hacks, whacks, choppin' that meat Butcher Pete's got a long sharp knife He starts choppin' and don't know when to stop All you fellas gotta watch your wives ‘Cause Pete don't care whose meat he chops [Chorus] Ever since Pete flew into town He's been havin' a ball Just cuttin' and choppin' for miles around Single women, married women, old maids and all [Chorus] Wakes up in the morning, half past five Chops from sunrise to sunset I don't see how he stays alive Meat's gonna be the death of ole Pete yet [Chorus] The police put Pete in jail Yes, he finally met his fate But when they came to pay his bail They found him choppin' on his cell mate [Chorus] That Butcher Pete is a crazy man Tries to chop down the wind and the rain Just hacks on anything he can get Say, turn this record over, you ain't heard nothing yet[/quote] Abortion restrictions are mandated by state. Usually second latest... not third. I dont even get the relation to that last statement Edit: to quote
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1 ReplyOnly thing Sierra is Echoing is propaganda.
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4 RepliesActually, it's the Supreme Court which decides on personhood of a fetus. SCOTUS has had conservative majority for at least two decades, so sorry they have had ample time to decide this if they chose to do do. There have been several cases to address this and they either didn't rule on issue or refused case altogether.
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9 Replies[quote]"I don't want a baby" +++cool. You shouldn't be forced to have one. "No problem, it's not a human being so we can "extract it" right out of there, doesn't matter if you're 8 months pregnant!" +++I love how you take the worst case scenario and try to twist it into being reality when it obviously isn't. What's it like being so mentally blocked off? >woman can be charged with fetal abuse for alcohol/drugs during pregnancy +++welcome to pro life propaganda. You've fallen for it and now you'll probably never get out. >killing a pregnant woman is two murder charges +++I hope you understand that these laws were passed so it would brainwash slower people into thinking the pro choice community came up with these laws. They are contradictions made by the pro life community. Nope nothing inconsistent here +++what's it like being so black and white all the time? You take complicated issues and try to dumb it down as much as possible. Typical conservative. [i]bonus round, damaging the egg of an endangered species is illegal[/i][/quote] +++key word "endangered". Do I have to explain this one to you as well or do you understand how stupid that statement is?
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I think you mean Leftist, not Liberal
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[quote]Laws made at different time in a parliamentary system where everything is a compromise amongst different groups of different people are somehow not consistent with each other [/quote] Holy shitz
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2 RepliesEdited by BenjyX55: 5/28/2017 7:53:26 PMI envy you. I truly do. It must be so much easier to see everything in black and white.
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2 Replies[quote]"I don't want a baby" "No problem, it's not a human being so we can "extract it" right out of there, doesn't matter if you're 8 months pregnant!" >woman can be charged with fetal abuse for alcohol/drugs during pregnancy >killing a pregnant woman is two murder charges Nope nothing inconsistent here [i]bonus round, damaging the egg of an endangered species is illegal[/i][/quote] Abortion isn't a liberal ideology
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5 RepliesAnyone who goes on a gaming forum to share political views has too much time on their hands.
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2 RepliesThere's a limit to when you can get an abortion after becoming pregnant.
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1 Reply[quote]"I don't want a baby"[/quote] Good for you! Should have bought some condoms (or not been -blam!- or some shit) but whatever, abortion is fine and okay in society, as it should be. [quote]"No problem, it's not a human being so we can "extract it" right out of there, doesn't matter if you're 8 months pregnant!"[/quote] . . . I believe at that point the fetus is still not a person so, yeah, I guess. The thing is, I believe at that point it can feel pain. But it is a fetus so it can't comprehend, well, anything. It's hasn't been born yet. [quote]>woman can be charged with fetal abuse for alcohol/drugs during pregnancy[/quote] If she is going to have the baby and knows she is -blam!-ing it up before its born, then yeah. [quote]>killing a pregnant woman is two murder charges[/quote] No that's dumb [quote]Nope nothing inconsistent here[/quote] For the most part, it is pretty consistent [quote][i]bonus round, damaging the egg of an endangered species is illegal[/i][/quote] What the actual -blam!- does that have to do with absolutely anything involving abortion. Also, please stop assuming all liberals think the same. It's a large demographic, and just like different conservatives have different views that are similar, but still completely different, we have similar but different views then each other. Hope this helped.
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Inconsistence is their middle names. Damn leftists.
