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Edited by Nightcore Loli:
9/29/2016 11:07:25 PM
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The inevitable future of pvp.
The guardians who've been asking for a thorn buff for so long are continuing to outcry until the thorn buff comes to destiny.
A lot guardians wanting not a damage buff but a dot buff. How can guardians ask for such a buff if it was broken in year 1? The artifact that helps prevent dot damage should make the thorn feel like you need to go for precision headshot damage rather than dot helping you out. So that being said it would make a lot of sense if it was a damage buff to thorn. Because a lot guardians have been asking for dot to be more effective than the artifact. It really doesn't make sense. Why should dot be more effective than the counter itself?
Also I should mention the complaints lack sense and knowledge because most of the guardians know it shouldn't counter the artifact's effect. When you question them a lot of them try to word it differently or say it will still be balance. I feel like guardians who support thorn do not understand the consequences of it's dot damage being way too effective. But nonetheless bungie listen to these guardians. Its too late the inevitable future of broken pvp is coming. K bye!
Edit: If you think thorn should be able to counter sniping. Please seek immediate medical attention.
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1 ReplySure bring damage to 81 a head but reduce rate of fire and done balanced
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19 RepliesBecause theres an artifact that negates the burn. If we had that shit in yr 1 the thorn could be the same now
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3 RepliesI'm telling ya... just make the original Thorn and reduce the damage by either 3 points per tick or take the number of ticks down by two or whatever the value is to where it is impossible to two shot walk away. That's all it ever needed. That way it's still 3 shots no matter what. Unless the enemy was damaged before hand. The only OP thing about Thorn was the 2 shot walk away. If they had done either of the two I had mentioned that would no longer be possible. Also, no one is saying make the artifact useless. Doesn't the artifact do something like makes all DoT one tick or something? So the only difference is that you take 5 points of poison per hit only, instead of 2. A 3 point difference. That WILL NOT make the artifact useless. Besides... everyone who uses Thorn regularly knows that its actually strength resides in its fast rate of fire and very good impact. The DoT was just a bonus.
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1 ReplyIt only does 2 damage per tick for like 3 ticks on top of a 76-79 crit. it's basically just a faster fire rate, standard hand cannon. It's not too bad, but with the armored titans that are so rampant right now, it's not that good. You have to try it for yourself in all honesty.
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13 RepliesIt should be buffed. You can use an artifact to reduce the damage of dot. When it does get buffed and you get killed easy it will be your own fault.
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5 RepliesEdited by SaltyJack591: 9/30/2016 4:42:27 PMIt's not that it was broken in year 1. It wasn't, the problem is there was only 1 real counter weapon and pretty much everyone had Thorn. Kind of like all we saw was Mida a few moths ago. There is also an artifact that reduces DoT in PvP, so if it gets a buff then you will probably want to equip it rather than the no sprint delay or some other artifact. I don't have the new Thorn yet, I had it in year 1 but rarely used it. I prefer counter weapons to most meta's. Plus going into your menu and the sit down animation cancels DoT. It was never really a problem.
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3 RepliesWow. Just. Wow. Op is op please nerf. Bungie fix yo game fam. You got some op's with op opinions that are breaking the game. We need a wall. We need to deports some op's that have opinions so strong that any sound logic warrants a hospital visit. We need to make destiny great again. We need... a thorn buff.
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9 RepliesYou do know that they can (and very well should) buff Thorn so that it's better than it is now, without making it as strong as it was in year 1, don't you?
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1 ReplyThorn is fine but hand cannons need a buff in general...I'm tired of the ghost shots
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1 ReplyOf you think about it thorn is a noobs weapon because of the dot
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8 RepliesBring Thorn and TLW back to their original power. Allow high impact pulse rifles to two burst [u]efficiently.[/u] They technically can now, but it's unlikely due to the bullet grouping in the bursts. Bring AR's back to how they were at the launch of Destiny. If I remember right, Suros was able to 4 shot before all the nerfs. Make this game fun again. It's not right now. It's watered down as hell and secondaries are always going to over come primaries until [u]all[/u] primaries recieve a buff. Do you ever complain about shotguns ? Do you ever complain about snipers ? If that's the case, you should be complaining about the weakness of primaries instead because that's the real issue. The strength of primaries is what kept secondaries in check back in year one before everyrhing started to continously get demolished by the developer and this [b]horrible[/b] community.
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It should be buffed. You can use an artifact to reduce the damage of dot. When it does get buffed and you get killed easy it will be your own fault.
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It should be buffed. You can use an artifact to reduce the damage of dot. When it does get buffed and you get killed easy it will be your own fault.
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30 RepliesTwo shot headshot was broken. No one trying to be reasonable is asking for that
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1 Reply-blam!- thorn. It does not need buff. If you need dot increased to kill someone, you shouldn't be using it.
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Increase dot, reduce damage from bullets. Slightly higher ttk, makes the artifact better and the weapon feel more exotic.
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7 RepliesEdited by antiviper80: 9/30/2016 2:51:46 PMI think thorn should lower agility and armor by 25% when you shoot.
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Edited by Bananagram21: 9/29/2016 8:10:51 PMI'd say increase DoT damage in PVE to make it viable, and leave it wherever it's at for PVP. Maybe a stability buff at most, but I haven't played with it since HoW, and clearly quite a bit has changed
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2 RepliesHa, "no dot' artifact, I think it was memory of silimar. I deleted it and am curious if I can get it back :)
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Well, thorn is more than just a PvP weapon, and I think a greater increase in the DoT's abilities would make it far more useful in PvE.
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If hand cannons get an overall buff, all exotic hand cannons will be more fun to play with. I've landed multiple head shots with the litc procd on hawk moon from pretty a close range and the guy had a sliver of health. The damage fall is real.
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No it's not this post is pointless.
