So, it's been awhile since I played Destiny. A great while. I recently started playing and ran back into my Red Death in the vault, I remembered when it could two burst people in PVP so I decided to check it out again. Now it's complete garbage. Getting three bursts off vs. that grasp of Malik or even hawksaw is impossible not to mention the MIDA or even the damn IB Pulse rifle. At least give it some kind of buff, if not in PVP then at least Pve. The healing ability barely comes into play and it doesn't do enough damage to even be of use, especially against groups. It's like the only semi-good thing about it is the fact it can heal you. Come on guys.
Edit: So it seems everybody agrees with my Red Death being nerfed to baby food, bring it back Bungie. Yet it also seems like ANY high impact Pulse Rifles are garbage now too. Let's see them return, enough with the spamming bullets until your opponent dies.
-
The problem with that archetype of pulse rifle is that it is inherently either bad or op. If you can two burst people it's automatically better than any other pulse. If it now takes three well then the mid rof and mid impact pulses are much better. I think pulse rifles are shit out of luck in that regard.
-
Everything changed when the fire nation attacked
-
i don't understand why bungie cant fix a certain archetype of gun without nerfing another
-
Imagine if the low ROF pulse rifles and auto rifles were buffed. That just means more diversity in the Crucible. All the current top tier stuff would still be good, but now there are more options. Don't see why Bungie won't do it.
-
Because people hopped on pulse rifles' pistachios like they do every weapon type that surpasses the last one.
-
That's why in my opinion high ROF weapons need more noticeable damage drop off seeing how they can cross map you from any distance.
-
you left it to much in the vault, it got spoiled, :p Seriously though, I got my red death just three days before the nerf, so I had that burning feeling inside me that Bungie did it purposely, and since that time I used it only few time in the COE and not in PVP cause it is really broken.
-
When they came for shotguns you agreed so they nerfed them. Then they came for thorn and you agreed again. So they nerfed it. Then they came for red death/ messenger and there was no one left to say no so they nerfed it.
-
I want the high impact red death again!
-
Nerfherders bitches and moaned. They destroyed it cause they have the power of crucibaby. I say revert all nerfs except to sun breaker armor and let the tears flow. Tired of nerfherding asswipes.
-
Feel your pain bro
-
[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/14016/7_Destiny-Weapon-Tuning--December-Update]The December Update[/url] will explain things for you.
-
Yea they need to sort out Pulse rifles pretty bad. They all kill in 3 bursts. So if you're not using the highest ROF ones, you are at a big disadvantage.
-
I don't have a problem with mine. [spoiler]maybe you're doing it wrong[/spoiler]
-
You think the red deaths bad just wait till you see what they did to the highest impact pulse rifles.
-
Sadly, Red Death takes just as many shots as faster pulse rifles so currently it is useless. I want them to rebuff it but not at the expense of nerfing my Hawksaw.
-
Edited by Forgotten: 7/25/2016 1:46:09 PMThey should just make it a two burst with higher flinch onto the opposing guardian but a drastic drop off like hand cannons. That way at least it would have its nitche. At the moment it has no place anywhere and it is one of my favorite weapon designs as well. Sad. The weapons description does it no justice.
-
If you having played in a great while, you are in for a hell of surprise.
-
Edited by KaptainKrakenZz: 7/25/2016 2:46:22 AMSome dude used red death as toilet paper, now it Jams on the second burst, so it can't 2 burst, that's what happens when you let the developer of psp ports take care of balancing..
-
Fall off killed the weapon, It's base stats needs improvements.
-
What happened with the Red Death? I thought it felt mostly samey but something felt ... different. I dunno. I attributed it to being a rusty scrub.
-
Bungie will not stop nerfing weapons until every single gun only shoots unicorn farts. If you don't believe me you can read this on the Bungie Mission Statement page at www.bungie.net
-
The archetype Red Death is in is complete shit now, that's what happened. The archetype will never be good until it can two burst again.
-
It got nerfed just enough that it can't 2 burst someone, i still think it's a good gun tho
-
It was performing well in the crucible finally and was useful for crota so Bungie nerfed it by changing its archtype from high impact to medium impact thats why.
-
Sadly it went the way of all good weapons nerfed into impotency. I remember when it could counter Thorn, ahhh the good old days