More magic would make pvp harder to balance. This may be another time when pvp limits the fun of pve.

Alright, here's what Destiny 2 needs. A Diablo-esque PvE in that enemies drop decent, level balanced loot and your class feels heavily dependent on its own resources for combat. Your guns should serve as only 50% or less of your arsenal while your three abilities each have passives and actives or can toggle between purpose. The subclasses should be more varied in purpose and you should be able to hot swap between them using your Ghost. In PvP your abilities are more limited to give the game a more shooter-esque vibe during that time and in Mayhem playlists those restrictions are removed along with the addition of 80% cooldown reduction. In this way PvP would not change too drastically for diehard PvPers out there, but the additional random mode could come around so PvE players don't feel so weak in PvP. With these changes a line could be drawn in the sand to separate the two main gameplay types and balance patches could alternate between the two to keep both sides relatively happy. In this way the game could essentially evolve into an RPG during PvE gameplay, but anyone who dislikes this style could stick mainly with PvP and only drop into PvE when they need some better guns. Last but most certainly not least, another location should be added to the Tower that would almost certainly require a loading screen. This location will be used as a PvP sandbox, making cooldowns 0% and ammo infinite. The area could have a kiosk in front of it so someone could choose whether to enter a public or private sandbox, and in the latter that person could assign changes in cooldown reduction and ammo count, as well as map detail like size and cover. The private sandbox could be used just to test out strategies for Mayhem or even for regular Crucible, or to see what the game would be like with only guns and no abilities. (Side note: A PvP mode where everyone is suppressed might be kind of fun... Someone get some friends in Classic Free-For-All and try it out if you can.) Any thoughts on that? I think this would make an excellent game, or at least it's the best idea I can come up with to keep everyone happy. Feel free to poke holes in my logic, as I rather enjoy the challenge of patching those up. I'm babbling again... What I'm saying is give feedback as you see fit.

Theyve nerfed too much since yr one. Its brutal. Bungie should just admit it and say they let Activision take em by the reigns. They had a sweet idea for a game. But all in all they just are making a futuristic version of cod. They no care about the LORE. Or the STORYLINE. Just pvp. PVP. the most boring and repetitive part of this game.

Welcome to year two Destiny where "Become Legend" became "Become Mediocre"!

I agree that this is exactly what the majority of PvE players would love, but if the abilities are too different between classes, PvP would become unbalanced. I would love for this game to become PvE centric, but as the weapon sandbox changes show, it really is PvP focused. There is cool and fun content in PvE, but there will never be interesting abilities and skill trees like Mass Effect or Borderlands because that would make the classes too different for PvP. Same for exotics. To not give anything too much strength in PvP, exotics are basically useless with a small change that isn't really "exotic". Summary: Because Destiny seems to be PvP centric in balancing, the classes will always be boring grenade, boring melee, super that gives a kill or two, and a some subclass perks that don't really change anything.

Disagree only bc I enjoy pvp..

i thought when i first found out about destiny that since warlocks are supposed to be like Gandalf in space then their abilities would be about using space magic all the time, such as instead of grenades our grenade ability would be like firing little void lasers from our palms or having a little flame throwers, that do little bits of damage but can be spammed or sustained to do real damage, then hunters would get abilities that buff their weapons and they would have like timed explosives and mines since they were supposed to be the gunslinger/sneaky spec ops sort of character and titans would get abilities that allow them to go into the fray and wreck face like a dash similar to biotic dash in mass effect, that deals damage to all enemies near the path and deals a ton of damage to an enemy hit directly, then have proper grenades since they are like the "master chief" style character