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Edited by Kinaibhlan: 4/26/2016 11:32:43 PM
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Bungie, Please remove Circle of Life Perk From Gunslinger (Suggestions)

Since the beta I've mained a Hunter and Gunslinger is my go to Subclass and Favorite. I use it in both PVE and Crucible when I can and it could really use a buff. I made a Thread the other day about how to improve Hunter for PVE and today I realised that I never used the perk Circle of Life. The only time I could ever imagine using it was leveling up in the first day of Destiny and it being quickly replaced with something else. This perk is the definition of situational and nowhere would it be useful. I made this video showing exactly what the perk does. I used it today before I thought of recording to see how much time it gives and I though the perk was broken because I saw no difference. I added the timers and killing an enemy with your throwing Knife adds an additional 2 seconds of time which is nothing. Let me Explain why this perk fails 1. Two Seconds is nowhere near enough extra time to add. 2. You have to actually kill the enemy with your Throwing Knife, good luck doing that with Vex. 3. You only have 1 knife and it's gone after you throw it. [b]Solution[/b] Remove the Perk and add it's effect to Knife Juggler or have it be an artifact. The perk is in the Throwing Knife tree and something far more useful can be added there like the ability to pick up your knife, travel faster/farther and maybe even a slight tracking perk. If you want to add a perk that increases Golden Gun Time replace the perk Deadeye with one that increases Golden Gun time. Link to Buffing Hunter Thread: https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/201678867

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  • I'd change it to one that gives you a throwing knife back if you miss. But yeah, there's so many useless nodes on hunter subclasses

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    • Personally I think Circle of Life should do two things scoring a precision kill with a knife while Golden Gun is Active should Grant +3 regen for 3 seconds grant an overshield for 5-10 seconds after Golden gun wears off and scoring the precision kill with the knife should cause the enemy to combust three things that would make players think that choice over more deadeye should grant precision aim and damage to the golden gun

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      • All I can say is Stfu

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        • Or: -Successful throwing knife kills while Golden gun is active load one extra Golden Bullet to the magazine. -Throwing knives used while Golden Gun is active deal triple damage. Getting throwing knife kills with an active golden gun is tough already, so either of these seems like an appealing option and promotes odd builds.

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          • Circle of life should just simply increase super energy gain from kills especially considering hunters don't have a melee like that.

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          • [quote]the ability to pick up your knife[/quote]I think I'd like this in some form or another

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            • The only time people use circle of life is when they are upgrading the subclass and that's the only super perk try have unlocked.

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            • Circle of life, throwing knife precision kills regen health or give an over shield, yes.....?

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              • It is probably the most useless perk in the game.

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                • Edited by Darakhai: 4/27/2016 2:47:24 AM
                  Circle of life : While your gunslinger trance is active your knife deals much higher damage (one shotting in pvp), Getting a kill adds an additional golden gun shot and extends gunslinger trances duration. This way there is some risk reward, do I use my last shot or try and get an additional shot by risking a throwing knife kill?

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                  • This works well for the challenge this week why get rid of something that is useful if the modifier is melee bonus

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                    • The last time I checked, the Circle of Life perk would trigger on all melee kills while your Golden Gun is active, not just the throwing knife. I'm not sure if that's a bug or not, and it certainly doesn't make the talent any less useless, but it is an interesting data point. One of the impressions I got from back when the devs were discussing the Titan changes is that the subclass talents are all created with specific builds in mind. If that's true then before Circle of Life existed there was a design intent that Gunslingers should have access to a build that supports a specific playstyle, and Circle of Life was created to fit into that build. Of course, the perk is so minimally useful that it's hard to guess at what build they were going for, but it behooves us to speculate because any changes they make will be in accordance with the original design philosophy. Some suggestions I would make for buffing Circle would be more along the lines of throwing knives dealing extra damage while GG is active, increasing the damage of the GG shot, or something of that nature. These things at least have a chance of preserving whatever purpose it is this talent is supposed to be fulfilling. For all that Bungie likes to tell us they value our feedback, sometimes I feel like they don't give us the tools to provide them with feedback that is actually valuable. One of the things I'd like to see them do with their new Twitch studio is to provide walk-alongs, in the style of their Dreadnaught showcase, through the design of each of the classes. If we knew more about what they were trying to achieve with the different subclass builds we could better provide them with feedback regarding where they are falling short of those goals.

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                      • Edited by Ghostfire 239: 4/27/2016 12:22:32 AM
                        I'm not sure what Bungie had in mind for this perk (For PvP). You can't kill an enemies with a throwing knife unless they've already been damaged and...well...you can't damage your opponent without killing them if you shoot them with GG. Maybe a grenade? But that would be a pretty big waste to get a little more time. I guess it's more of a PvE perk for low level enemies such as thralls and dregs but GG is pretty useless in PvE unless you use nighthawk in which you would probably activate it when you ready to shoot your target which means you wouldn't really need to increase the GG timer soooo...Useless perk.

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                      • Edited by Infamous067: 4/26/2016 11:31:14 PM
                        Although I don't t main hunter I do play as one. I agree that that perk is pretty useless, I feel you guys should get something better apart from that

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