The conspiracy theory D in my opinion, is a gun that has several noticeable issues. I don't wish to NERF the weapon, but rather propose options to make other shotguns comparable in utility. The game gives everyone willing to complete the bounty a Conspiracy Theory with rolls on it that instantly puts it in the top tier classification for a shotgun. The shotgun itself seems to have a velocity advantage that isn't exactly detailed in its stats. The damage to range allows for OHK attacks that are noticeably more effective than others. All of this coupled with its ease of obtainability brings up the question, how do we make other shotguns more relevant? Well.. Here's my view.
My opinion, I think they should buff other shotguns to compare to this one. It would add variety, they all need a small range buff while conspiracy remains untouched. I'm offering a poll just to see what the thoughts of community goers would be in this subject. I know I'm going to catch a lot of flak with people assuming it's a nerf post, but if you read into what I'm saying you might consider my point of view. Please discuss your opinions. Also, if you have load outs you use to combat the "CTD" effectively, please share if you're willing. Knowing how to set up perks, the weapons to use, and even tactics can really help players out.
Edit : Now I'm being called a "year 2 noob", so let me be up front now.. I've been around since the beta. I didn't live on this game like some have, but I do have plenty of hours logged into it. I am in no way a year 2 beginner.
Edit : the topic is rolling in comments pretty fast, if I fail to get back to you in a timely manner, I apologize. I would like to actually converse with you about the options if you have an actual conversation worthy thing to say.
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2 RepliesI think all shotgun base damage should be halved and precision damage raised back up to its former glory. This makes all shotguns more viable and take at least a little skill. I think snipers need this same treatment. They do too much body shot damage.
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1 ReplyI can beat out most of them out with my iron banner shotgun so I don't think it's that big of a deal.
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3 RepliesReduce range
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3 RepliesNah, shotguns need to have the movement thing reverted. That's puts them in a great place.
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1 ReplyOther guns are comparable. Party Crasher is basically just as deadly. Binary Dawn is comparable also. Not to mention Invective, and Chaperone. Shotgun meta is perfectly healthy.
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1 ReplyMuted
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4 RepliesMy Party Crasher has the same range and impact, along with more range for ten seconds in spawn along with a better RoF, stability, and reload. Now can we please nerf things that actually need looking at like Terminus, TLW, and snipers in general.
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3 RepliesParty crasher is better than conspiracy d 3 times the fire rate only thing you gotta be lucky to get a good roll with range perks
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1 ReplyParty Crasher>Conspiracy theory
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Dude seriously? Are people still complaining about shotties?! First off, you literally have the agility of a fücking ameba with a shotgun equipped. I move around faster with my lmg than with my shotgun. Second range finder is a decent perk but the bonus melee damage on hit is a much better one. Allows you to two hit folks from a much greater distance especially coupled with blink strike Third higher rof shotguns can be even more deadly in the right hands and allow you to take on multiple opponents. I sometimes prefer my patch a to my party crasher.
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2 RepliesShotguns need a buff i enjoyed shotguns pre nerf :/
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2 RepliesNoooo disagree and here's why. Almost everyone from year 1 had a felwinters, perfectly rolled, and a high impact sniper. With Yr 1 guns taken out of relevancy, they were generous enough to give us good starting rolls on a shotgun and a sniper. Now if you got that roll on party crasher, or binary dawn, you'd have one of the best in the game, far better than conspiracy theory. Conspiracy was a good starting point, everyone gets a half decent shotgun, if you want a nicer one grind it. Chaperone is the king of shotties, beats any shotgunner any day. Party crasher is a HEAVY hitter and without rangefinder I still use that more than conspiracy. Binary I got rangefinder and life support, and I like the feel of it so it gets used most of my shotties.
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5 RepliesEdited by Sixclicks: 2/26/2016 5:03:49 PMThey just need to flip range on the shotgun archetypes. High impact shotguns should have less range as a tradeoff. Whereas low impact should have more range. That's how it always should have been imo, and it would have made some of the shotgun nerfs unnecessary. Balance fire rate as needed. That way you can kill an enemy in one shot, therfore conserving ammo, at really close range or take them out in a couple of shots at a little longer distance. It just doesn't make sense for the highest damage shotguns to have the highest range as well balance-wise.
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Binary dawn eats theory-d for breakfast.
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They're fine use a doctrine
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1 ReplyJust give us a few more viable options. I want a year 2 found verdict specifically.
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1 ReplyRemove all range increasing perks on all shotguns and we'll be good.
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3 RepliesYou still complaining about shotgun. Grow up kid
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Party crasher for the win
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Party crashed for the win
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1 ReplyI still think they should remove that archetype of shotgun and buff the other ones a bit to compensate. Shotguns as a whole have never been a problem. It's been the high impact ones that are
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The only reason its so prevalent is because they give one with THE shotgun Perk.. Ill bet my life if the one rewarded to all us had any other Perk other than rangefinder we wouldn't even be having this discussion. Other shotguns are fine they just don't automatically come with a great range based build.
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I think my party crasher competes quite well with the conspiracy theory. I have rangefinder, rifle barreled and I forgot the name of the perk where it fills the magazine on super.
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7 RepliesHow on earth are you still complaining about shot guns? Have you not been playing recently? You can't even use a shotgun as you can't get close because of the shite sniper/scout rifle set up.
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Slight buff to shotguns
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2 RepliesIf it's normal crucible I use Matador or Felwinters. If it's trials or IB I use Patch A with all range perks, it's rang is like a sniper.