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Edited by jareids: 1/20/2016 5:48:58 PM
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To Bungie: A Compromise for Y2 Versions of Y1 Raid Gear

It's no secret. Everyone wants access to Y2 versions Y1 raid gear, but Bungie said no. I've come up with a [b]compromise[/b]. It's important to remember that this is exactly that. We won't get everything we want under this scenario, but the goal of my idea is to [b]reconcile what Bungie wants with what we want[/b]. First, you need to understand [b]why[/b] Bungie did not advance Y1 raid gear. If you do understand, move on, otherwise, read the spoiler. [spoiler]1) They want people to be open to trying out all sorts of new weapons and gear and not just stick to what they know. 2) They wanted to introduce progression into he storyline and raids. 3) Lets face it, a lot of Y1 stuff was a bit OP. 4) They want you to be forced to play the new raid more to acquire the best gear. [/spoiler] Here's are some consequences of not advancing Y1 gear: [spoiler]1) VoG and CE are completely worthless and obsolete, which is a real shame because I enjoy both raids. 2) The awesome gear dropped by those raids are obsolete. 3) Because 1 and 2 are true, content is now very limited, and it's actually taken away from the "progression" of the game. Most new players have killed Oryx without ever killing Crota. That makes no sense. Essentially, we have 1 raid when we should have 3, and we have 1 end game load-out when we should have a ton. [/spoiler] The plan I posit is simple: [b]Introduce a 320 light level challenge mode to the old raids, which would drop Y1 gear at Y2 levels, with the ability to infuse.[/b] This would leave more content to chase at the very end. You would need to have a maxed out character or at least be a very high light level, meaning you would have had many Kings Fall completions to have that ability to do old raid challenge modes. People would still be forced to try all the new gear, of if they still wanted to get the highest level VoG gear again, at least that option would be available, even though it would be a massive grind to acquire. It would keep all content relevant, and would give players many more options but would still fulfill all the reasons that Bungie kept Y1 raid gear locked at Y1 levels. [b]Not to mention it would create a reason to grind past 310. [/b]Thats more for us to do, and more hours playing the game, which is good for Bungie. Plus it would be fun to have the old raids be super hard again. It would just be better in every way for both parties. What do you think? Yay or nay? Show your support or lack-there-of! [b]TL;DR[/b] 320 Challenge mode for old raids that would drop Y1 gear at Y2 levels.

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  • i think 320 is a bit much. maybe 300 would be better. that way, you dont have to have multiple oryx completions to be able to run VoG or CE

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    • A good idea and would keep us busy. I'd love to have the old armor sets back. VoG was some of the best looking armor around. Problem is they won't give us what we want. Deej and Cozmo won't even reply to ideas like this.

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    • I would love that! I would also love going through the lamp section with zhalo supercell 😃

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    • I can see Crota's challenge now: Can't have the same sword bearer. I got into Destiny March 2015; got dragged through due to my levels but only recently did I ever attempt to be the damage dealer for Crota. We went back cause a recent clan add wanted the ship and shader. Didn't have any hunters so my warlock tried.

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      • Also I think another way to make VoG and CE sort of relevant would be to make them apart of the quest that unlocks kings fall raid. Just make people required to do them before they unlock it.

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      • I don't think bungie will ever bring back the VoG or CE weapons as they were too OP.The gear I could see. Transmog is what this game really needs I could see them making a scaled version at 320 with Atheon or Crota dropping a shard that allows transmog "Glass Infusion Shard" - "A glass shard from inside the Vault of Glass,it seems to alter the appearance of a Guardians gear". "Nether World Rune" - "A Rune that appears to be from the Hive Nether World that re-maps a Guardians gear,perhaps an old Warlock is looking out for us." I really wish we had more lore and story in the game.

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      • Wasn't there a bunch of datamines showing two sets of gear for both VoG and CE? I remember people getting excited for the Hard modes, and then being disappointed when it was the same gear they were getting. I dunno, maybe I'm remembering it wrong. Like, change the color of the Vex and Crota armor. Give them a different prefix. Easy. I don't know what Bungie is leaving stuff out. The game is VERY limited. I still have my Y1 armor set in hopes I can use it again one day. If this is gonna happen with every big update to the game, then what's the point of playing? You work hard and take time out of your life to earn this shit. You spend hours in raids and strikes and crucible. And, for what? So next year that gear is unusable? Bullshit. My Mantle of Perun looks sick af, and I worked hard in IB to get it, back when Thorn was king. It's only Light 30. My hard raid drops from other raids are pointless and useless now. My shit from HoW and PoE(which we got less than 4 months to play on) is now obsolete. I spent 9 hours trying to kill Skolas my first try on the PS3(long menu load times so couldn't melt with Gjallarhorn). And then to finally earn all that stuff only to have it thrown back in my face with TTK. Bungie is stupid and they're floundering. They don't know what to do. This is the company's first game(since the real Bungie employees went to 343i). Problems with the Tiger engine. Cut content. Missing story. Bungie execs telling them to make a new game a year from release. Bad balance changes. Community managers no one likes. Not really fixing the real issues. Not listening to the community(the popular youtubers don't think for all of us). Making Y1 gear irrelevant. Making the grind even more real. Trying to "balance" Y2 stuff so it's now all kinda mediocre. This game... I might be switching to Warframe indefinitely soon.

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        • Bump

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        • I'm all for it!!! Any kind of compromise to make the Y1 raids relevant again would be more than worthwhile!! The extra op to get to 320 would be a great advantage!!

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        • Make the old raids like you said but Taken version. So when you complete the old raid with the same mechanics but different enemies it would be fun. So while going against Taken you get KingsFall Raid gear but you can only do it once per week. So you can't do VOG get KingsFall Hard Mode stuff and then go do Crota for more loot. People can still play old raids for new loot but the downside to this is some people have the old raids down so it might be a cake walk. If that's the case make it like Crota Hard. The enemies toward the end are light level 330. Extra challenge for the same loot as doing 320 Oryx.

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          • Good points. Have to agree. The cool thing about year 1 as far as the gear was that I could mix and match both raid gears , trails of Osiris , and iron banner gear all together and make up some cool looking combinations. Now it's just 1 raid gear. Maybe iron banner and trails if you had enough infusion fuel to level them up equally. The faction gear has always been trash. We essentially bought a dlc that took from us.

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            • Yes. This would be great for the people who enjoy raiding and I hope it happens for you guys. P.s. Op there is a typo in your second spoiler. I believe you mean progression rather than profession.

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              • Well if bungie knew how to make good gear to compete with year 1 then there wouldn't be a problem. And no Black spindle doesn't count cuz it's a carbon copy and TOM is only used in the raid.

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              • Y1 is old, it's over its not coming back, the game is progression based even when some of the Y2 is copied from Y1, I don't get to keep my Lv. 50 relic weapon from FF14 ARR to use it in FF14 HW Lv. 60 raids either because the game moved on. Das normal

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                • Amazingly most of us paid £100 for the original game & 2 dlc's then a year later we pay £40 for 1 dlc that makes all the other stuff irrelevant that's what pisses me off. And honestly we had fun running with the older weapons & loadouts that's why we play, all they had to do if they thought people weren't trying other weapons was give weekly challenges to use different weapons/or add different elemental damage every week, sort of like they do now with KF And for the elemental damage that was one reason to run different weapons in the now pointless nightfall and they took away weekly which was a great little fast activity. In fact if they took 3oc away the nightfall might actually be worth the bother, but the fact you can pop 3oc & run a level 14 strike or Crucible & get exotic's fairly quickly what's the point - NF & the raids were the only reliable way to get Exotics

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                • They would probably have to remove elemental burns from primaries, but I'd be up for that!

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                  • Cough...Transmog

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                  • This is a bad idea. You forgot the 19.99 price tag -Bungie

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                  • This has been repeatedly asked for. With that said I am all for it.

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                  • Bump! Please Bungie! Let this happen

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                  • To be honest I would take anything right now my vault is full of weapons and armour from year 1 that I cannot use well actually I could but they would be worthless right now with the new light levels. If bungie made this happen I would still play with the year 2 gear and there would be alot more of a variety when it comes to loadouts and not feel restricted. Challenges for the old raids sound alright but going through the whole rng rubbish to try and get the same weapon you already grinded for in the first place seems a bit weird to me however I do agree it would make destiny intresting again but at the same time people may not like it.

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                  • Awsome

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                  • Doing crota and vault but at higher light.... [spoiler]COUNT ME IN!!!![/spoiler]

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                  • PREACH!

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                  • Really great idea OP!! It would give us a lot more options each week. Also a reason to grind past 310! I have to agree with the others about no burns on primaries.... even though fatebringer never left my hand during year 1!

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                    They said no because we as guardians are supposed to be stronger than old enemies.

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