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6/25/2004 10:00:58 PM
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Chapter Avatars

Hullo there. This is for all members of the Seventh Column. I was just curious if any chapter founders would be interested in chapter Avatars, perhaps about the size of your personal ones here in the forum, or larger, smaller, whatever you'd like. Please just speak your mind on this, but I thought it would be a neat system to set up for when the Seventh Column catches up to the rest of Bungie.net. It would be a great identification system for chapters, besides simply the name. I know Bungie isn't very keen about custom avatars, but it would be nice to have some just the same... I'm sure there's a lot more ideas for what the next version of the seventh column could include, but I thought this was one that deserved a mention. Thanks guys, and again, thoughts or ideas welcome.
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  • sorry. jeeez. lol. i'll leave it alone. peace.
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  • The whole thing is complex, not just the checking. Just let the team work on [b]CENSORED[/b] and our [b]CENSORED[/b]. [Edited on 6/30/2004 6:21:41 PM]
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  • I guess your right goweb. It would kind of suck to take all of you awesome mods and make them waste extra Halo 2 playing time to run through them. NO SARCASM or MOCKING intended. It would drive me nuts to have to sit, even for maybe an hour, a day and look at all the CRAP that people send in. And [i]then[/i] listening to their complaining?! Nevermind. I was just hopefull. Maybe a list of different chapter exclusive avatars might work? Something only chapters can use and not random members or non-bungie.net players. Still a stretch.
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  • Sure it's not an easy task, but with the help of a few trustworthy people, it could work.
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  • I'll trust you on that one goweb, but I'd still like an alternative. Combinations of presets sounds ok, though admittedly complex. Bungie knows what they're doing though, and I'll trust this to them the same way I do Halo 2. They make the hotness, and they make it hotter. ;)
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  • Just trust me - it isn't as easy as you think.
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  • That's what I was thinking. It's not like it would kill anybody if there were just a few moderators looking at them. I think most people would recognize -blam!-, language, and anything vulgar the moment it popped up. [i]Oh, what's this? An illegal avatar? Bye, bye.[/i] Done and done. NEXT!
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  • Any avatar that comes close to being no good would go into the dump bin. And ten seconds is my conservative estimate. They would be in one folder online. All you need to do is move them to another. Or move the bad ones to another because odds are most will be good (not good but PG13 you know).
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  • For new chapters, I suppose it wouldn't be too bad. But you'd have to do it retrospectively, which would eat up the time.
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  • Exactly, the administrators would just take a glance at the logos when the chapters are submitted. It would only take a second or two longer.
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  • And when all new chapters are submitted to be approved, all new ones will submit avatars . Just like almost all new ones have themes, even if they never have posts in them.
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  • You're forgetting that we'll also have to ask Sketch about avatars we're not sure about, wasting his time too. It's going to take more than ten seconds to approve.
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  • Well, if you factor in the non-active chapters and the people who are too lazy to make an avatar of their own, I'll wager under 5,000 chapters would have to be checked. At a mesely 10k a piece, even on a 56k, it shouldn't take more than a few soconds to download one. The longest part would be the approval process. Moving the approved ones form where they are to a new spot. That's a maximum of eight seconds a piece right? Moving files in my FTP doesn't take very long. So about ten seconds an avatar. We have 7 mods, you can most easily trust several others, so let's say ten people. 5,000 avatars, 10 people, 500 a piece, ten seconds a pop, 5,000 seconds to do it. That's an hour and less than a half to check their fair share. Hell, I'll do it just to get my own avatar! Of course, this depends wildly on how Bungie sets up the FTP space to check them. And if my estimate is off a bit, the time could takre a whole lot longer. But it's not as bad as you think. Hell, I'll do the whole thing personally, if not just for the fame it will bring me. (Think instant stosh fame level from appreciative founders!) Now, cue stosh saying no one will ever be as famous as him, and also cue Archronos to tell me why my idea would take ten times longer than I think. [Edited on 6/26/2004 8:38:51 PM]
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  • If you just had moderators, each would have about 1500 to check!
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  • I agree with Rip Saw's idea about trusted moderators or other members with too much time, no offense, that could check the avatars. Maybe at least filter out the ones that are obviously objectional. Then the rest Bungie could check off. That would take a big load off Bungie and no stupidness would get through, just to get through. Plus everyone's correct in, my opinion, about the activeness of chapters. Plus not every active chapter would take the time to make one. I also think it would encourage non-community Halo 2 players to take part if they saw something they could relate to or just plain liked. Would Bungie even consider this? How would they find out these ideas to put them as a part of the new hotness? The only problem I see with this not working is some legal matter that I know nothing about. No surprise there. Ha ha. [Edited on 6/26/2004 6:32:32 PM]
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] goweb hotter hotness.[/quote] yay! for hotter hotness!
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] goweb Theoretically it'd be a good idea, but with over 10,000 chapters, all that checking would take a lot of time.[/quote] This question is how many of those are actually [i]active[/i].
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  • Thanks again for the input guys. I know the checking would be tedious, but if Bungie came up with a system of sorts to combine elements into a custom logo, it should work without a hitch, in theory at least ;) I like Just Another Fan's idea about changing the subscript for our personal avatars though. Good thoughts, everyone.
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  • Yeah, that's definately a great idea. After all, chapters can make thier own custom emblems to show off in H2.
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  • WAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much checking. i like Rip's idea about words over or avatars. but how about this: Right under your name, it says "member". maybe the oppertunity for this to be changed to our chapter name. and members could have the same oppertunity. you know, they could make a dropdown-menu, with all the chapter we are member of, and we can select one. I think that's a nice way to promote chapters too. so it would be like this: just another fan [i]chapter something[/i] avatar member since: 10/11/1900 Also, in this way, people who aren't chapter founders can promote the chapters they like. just a thought, that is.
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  • Heh, that and the fact that when the new hotness gets going, more chapters will be springing up, giving whoever more avatars to check. Yuck. Too much checking.
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  • You wouldn't be the one doing the checking though!
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  • Well, around 5,000 of them really aren't active, so let's see here...around 6,000 avatars to check, that'd take around a month, which is almost how long it took my chapter to be accepted, so I can live with it.
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  • [quote]Checking them wouldn't take too long.[/quote] As of now, there are 11,025 chapters. If everyone of those decided to have a custom avatar, do you still think that it wouldn't take a long time?
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  • Thanks for the input guys. I appreciate it. I like the idea, Surge, but it would, as you said, be difficult to implement. Perhaps you could pick an iconic emblem from a bungie game (master chief, that myth guy, konoko, guilty spark, a longsword, the POA) and have a symbol (like the ones from marathon or the forerunner buildings) over it to denote the nature of your chapter, like information providing, local LAN, internet gaming, etc. Then you could have text initials with it, Like Rip said. For mine, for example, it would read "O.C.R.C." You could fill out that info like you do when you make your user profile here, except it would be in your chapter form. It would combine into a unique logo for your particular group. I know that Bungie knows what it's doing, but I really hope the "new hotness" includes something like this in it.
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  • I'm still all for the having text over avatars. I could have a "[i]R-S[/i]" text over mine, Banshee Barron could have a "BB", Mr s could have a ":)"!
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