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#Recruiting

6/23/2004 5:35:16 PM
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Here it is the Athenian Guard read and if you want to join go to the site. Sorry is really long you might want to go get something to drink. First I believe it should be called the Athenian Guard mainly because the Athenian kicked Spartan ass a long time ago. This name would be a subtle jab at other clans such as the Spartan Squad. Also Athens was one of the first places to consider everybody equal and if you read how the clan is organized you will understand how this applies. That?s my reason for the name. As for how my new type of clan would work I'll explain. Everyone has a job on a team of 8 in a capture the flag game. The jobs consist of 2 assaulters, 2 drivers, sniper, gunner, defender, and a pilot. The assaulters can go by foot or ride in the passenger seat in the wart hog they are the main people to steal the enemies flag. They can use any weapons they choose except for the human and covie sniper rifles (the sniper is the only one who can use those weapons). The drivers drive any land based vehicle ghost, tank, warthog, etc they are expected to stay in their vehicles at all times unless the flag happens to drop right near where they are. The sniper is what his name suggests they snipe they have to have at least one type of sniper rifle in their inventory at all times, they do not steal the flag only assaulters go into the base to steal it. The gunner uses the LAAG, rocket launcher, and the mag-lev gun on the back of warthogs or on the back of jump-jets if those are available in halo 2 he like the drive is expected to stay in the vehicle at all times. The defender makes sure our flag does not leave the base he guards it and makes sure he can see it at all times. If it is stolen he is free to use any means necessary to get it back whether it be running, sniping, flying, or driving he can do them all. The pilot drives flyable vehicles such as the banshee or jump-jet. Once again every person is free to use what ever weapon they choose except the Sniper Rifles (both types) those can only be used by snipers and defenders when the flag is stolen. I do not know if you have been in a clan before but if you have you would know that most clans have a ranking system this clan would not be like that. There is NO LEADER only a founder meaning that no one bosses any one around during a game everyone is just expected to do their job. The founder has the ability to make alliances with other clans and kick members out, political things such as that but in game he is as powerful as everyone else. Now the way the job system works is once a person joins they pick the job they like most. Then when halo 2 comes out they would make their gaming name. Say they choose to be a sniper their name would be AG (Athenian Guard) S (sniper) AG-S Killboy whatever they like. The way the tag system works is everyone put AG in front of their name and then a label for their job. I'll right out all of them right now. AG-A = Assaulter AG-D = Driver AG-S = Sniper AG-G = Gunner AG-F = Defender (F is for flag) AG-P = Pilot Now say you do your job for a month and your getting board of just sniping you can switch all you have to do is change your name to fit what job you want to do. Most clans also appear they are forcing people to pick colors and emblems that the clan leader wants them to have. The Athenian Guard doesn't do that we let people pick whatever color or emblem they want as long as they are on the same team when the game starts. Now last but not least what happens if when a game starts the perfect 8 person set up doesn't work out? Say the game starts and there are 2 snipers and no defenders well one of them is expected to say "I'll defend for this game" the next game they switch. People are expected to be understanding if the founder finds out that people aren't agreeing with each other a 3 strike rule applies if the incident happens in which both people refuse to defend and the founder hears about it 3 times on 3 different occasions he can kick them out. Overall this clan bases itself on the idea that if everyone does their job well no matter how bad a halo player they are overall if they do their one job well the team as a whole will succeed. http://www.freewebs.com/fencr505/index.htm [Edited on 6/26/2004 5:00:28 PM]
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  • [color=orange] FLAME! [/color]

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  • Dont bring up the flamming or else it will start back up. You guys have alot more advertisments it would be better if you let this one die nuff said.

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  • quit the Flamin' flamers

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  • This clan sure is suprising me positvely. Equal rights i like, however we do need an estabished leader that organizes gatherings and grit.... maybe we do have that but what do I know :p

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  • Absolution is right. We should all be sorry that we got so worked up about history and a little game called Halo 2. I did a few things I shouldn't have. Like I said how I liked communism. That is a personal oppinion that I should have kept just that: personal. Then I presented some historical facts as to why I thought Athens was better. That was off topic. Finally, I expressed my disappointment that the thread had degraded into name calling and an arguement about ancient Greece. I guess that upset people (I'm not entirely sure why) and I am sorry about that. [Edited on 6/26/2004 5:03:47 PM]

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  • Moderators as the creator of this thread i ask for u to get rid of this thread its gotten out of control. Ill start a new one later thank you.

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  • Ok here is the deal there were 3 wars not one. No one won the first just skirmishes. In the second sparta comes attacks athens athens with stands the siege using tactics unseen before they lived behing their walls. You may say this is cowardly but the term coward was developed by the uintelligent. In the third athens along with thebes attacked sparta freeing the helots (spartas slaves) being not a self sufficient nation they were on able to maintain power and were destroyed. Sparta was gone Athens survived Also this is one historic reference you seem to be missing, the reason i called it the athenian guard and not the theben guard was because athens is the first place to believe everybody is equall and have freedom of speech which fits very nicely with how my clan is organised. Athens was conquered but in the end it won otherwise the olympics would be in sparta this year.

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  • Sorry I have a short temper and not to mention short term memory loss shadow warrior can tell you about that

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  • im glad you feel that way. but i aplogize for my clan and for anything i may have said that offened anyone. Halo and Halo2 were made so we all could have fun, not bash eachother about who suck or who insulted who...lets just forget this and enjoy Halo2...isnt that the who poin tof this site? :) [Edited on 6/26/2004 4:56:25 PM]

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  • Ok all I apologize for all of this. I want you all to know that I would like a little peace between us. Shadow warrior is right this is getting out of hand

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] IceDrgn437 DAMN IT TEMPLAR you are the reason i came into this! I am sorry i have a very short temper but please this wouldnt have happened if you and cheeseass just kept their mouth shut![/quote] What exactly did I say that got you involved? I know comments made by people earlier were immature and uncalled for, but I can't remember what I said that would have gotten you so angry. But then my memory isn't very good. Please keep political discussion out of this. The bungie forums are no place for that, as the forums say in their rules. I shouldn't even of said that first comment about how I like communism. I should have kept my oppinion to myself, I am sorry. EDIT: The only thing I said that could have gotten you involved was a historical fact that spartans did things. Or possibly that I thought Athens was a better polis. Which many historians would support: they had much better accomplishments and lifestyles. This thread should get locked. I hope it does. [Edited on 6/26/2004 4:54:30 PM]

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  • You know i would stop but yet you still flame us!

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  • exactly! the tradition spcetrum of politics is a line...one extream to another: today thatnks to the -blam!-s and soviet commies, you have to look at it as a circle with a barrierat one point. One end you have, lets say American Democracy; go around the circle and you arrive at a perverted of Karl Marx's Communism: Soviet Communism. The ideals and objectives are somewhat related, however the means of achieveing those goals are where we find the difference between democracy and communism.

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  • Shadow Warrior, I agree that the immaturity on [b]both[/b] sides was unnecessary and uncalled for. Ice Dragon, that was what we call a hypothetical situation. It doesn't matter that your threads are useless, its the fact that is was incredibly disrespectful to ruin ours. How did all you people even come to post on this thread? I guess I could look back through the posts and see what caused you guys to get involved, but I'm not interested and its not important.

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  • DAMN IT TEMPLAR you are the reason i came into this! I am sorry i have a very short temper but please this wouldnt have happened if you and cheeseass just kept their mouth shut!

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Absolution yes, we established this many years ago after we invaed Normandy, F a c i s m i s b a d...but how is the relevent to the "topic" at hand? Let me rephrase" there were 2 types of facism, like communism. -blam!- Facism and "normal" facism. genneraly facism is branded bad because of the -blam!- influence(-blam!-@$$es), same with communism: Theres Soviet Communism and Communism[/quote] Exactly, you have one extreme after the other. Though, the irony in it all is that the two, (the extremes anyway), are practically identical... the real form of each is the exact opposite. And this has no relavence to the topic excpet making a point to Templar's statement. Achilles [

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  • What's wrong with fascism? Well, complete rule by one person or group of persons is normally a bad thing. Unless you have some extremely wise people. Even then they would do some things wrong and do the things that benefit [b]them[/b] most. No politics though, its against the rules. Seriously, this is out of hand. I typed that, then when I submitted it (a couple minutes later) there was a whole nother page of ice dragon getting off topic and proving he had a somewhat disturbing obsession with trying to let it be known that he is right and the ultimate, while destroying our clan's advertisement. Seriously, this thread has gotten totally off topic. Its about exposing people to our clan so they can take a look at it. And ice dragon should know (since he's such a history buff) that Athens was a much better polis, though they didn't win the war. Sure sparta was marginally better than Athens at war, but Athens focused on the better things of life. Even then they gave sparta a challenge. [Edited on 6/26/2004 4:39:33 PM]

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  • O and I am sorry for trying to repair our pride, if you want we can have this erupt into another Peloponnisian War on XBL and we can show you all how Sparta beat Athens. [Edited on 6/26/2004 4:38:35 PM]

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  • i agree compleatly, but with no offence ment to my own clan and yours, was it quite necessary to stoop to our level?

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  • Absolution your clan brought this upon themselves they used wrong historic facts and dumb comments to insult people imo your clan was the one that took it to this level hey the historic arguments are better than the dick references you guys and the SoT were spewing earlier [Edited on 6/26/2004 4:35:54 PM]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Templar Zealot Sparta did win, but they didn't kick Athen's ass. They actually struggled against Athens and wanted peace on a couple of occasions (they realized the war was much more risky than they had anticipated). Pretty pathetic when Spartans were bred for war and they had a hard time against people who didn't spend their whole lives training for war. Athens was actually a much better society. Sparta was just a fascist, warmongering city-state. Athens excelled at art, political philosiphy, music, and other things (things more important than war). They were also fairly good at war, considering they were a match for a polis that trained for war their whole life. Not to mention Sparta(ns) is so damn cliche and unoriginal. And please don't ruin this post with almost a page of flaming and spamming. Thats inconsiderate, as I'm sure you would not like people to ruin [b]your[/b] clan advertisement. Why did you even post here if you have no interest in joining the clan and aren't in it? [b]You[/b] instigated it by looking for trouble.[/quote] Sorry but when I am the clan leader of a clan called the {SS} I get pissed when we get flamed! And if you all paid attention we are no longer accepting members so our threads are pretty useless now!

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  • yes, we established this many years ago after we invaed Normandy, F a c i s m i s b a d...but how is the relevent to the "topic" at hand? Let me rephrase" there were 2 types of facism, like communism. -blam!- Facism and "normal" facism. genneraly facism is branded bad because of the -blam!- influence(-blam!-@$$es), same with communism: Theres Soviet Communism and Communism [Edited on 6/26/2004 4:35:58 PM]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Templar Zealot Sparta did win, but they didn't kick Athen's ass. They actually struggled against Athens and wanted peace on a couple of occasions (they realized the war was much more risky than they had anticipated). Pretty pathetic when Spartans were bred for war and they had a hard time against people who didn't spend their whole lives training for war. Athens was actually a much better society. Sparta was just a fascist, warmongering city-state. Athens excelled at art, political philosiphy, music, and other things (things more important than war). They were also fairly good at war, considering they were a match for a polis that trained for war their whole life. Not to mention Sparta(ns) is so damn cliche and unoriginal. And please don't ruin this post with almost a page of flaming and spamming. Thats inconsiderate, as I'm sure you would not like people to ruin [b]your[/b] clan advertisement. Why did you even post here if you have no interest in joining the clan and aren't in it? [b]You[/b] instigated it by looking for trouble.[/quote] What's wrong with a Facsist State? Well, let me rephrase that, what is wrong with Facsist Ideals, the REAL ones... don't drag WWII into this... those were not Facsist States... well. Itatly was but that was it. I'd love to have an AIM political disccussion with you Templar... if you are up for one? Achilles [Edited on 6/26/2004 4:32:43 PM]

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  • im slow, stupid, and in many cases, stubborn. but i do know enought that firts off, what your doing is rude and secondly, you are taking this to a level that it doesnt need to go to...again, [b]its a game![/b]

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  • i would be happy tho give you a referral of what i know...its what little i remember from 2 years ago in wester civ...:) so in responce, i apologize for pissin gyou off so much [Edited on 6/26/2004 4:25:16 PM]

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  • Sparta did win, but they didn't kick Athen's ass. They actually struggled against Athens and wanted peace on a couple of occasions (they realized the war was much more risky than they had anticipated). Pretty pathetic when Spartans were bred for war and they had a hard time against people who didn't spend their whole lives training for war. Athens was actually a much better society. Sparta was just a fascist, warmongering city-state. Athens excelled at art, political philosiphy, music, and other things (things more important than war). They were also fairly good at war, considering they were a match for a polis that trained for war their whole life. Not to mention Sparta(ns) is so damn cliche and unoriginal. And please don't ruin this post with almost a page of flaming and spamming. Thats inconsiderate, as I'm sure you would not like people to ruin [b]your[/b] clan advertisement. Why did you even post here if you have no interest in joining the clan and aren't in it? [b]You[/b] instigated it by looking for trouble. [Edited on 6/26/2004 4:25:16 PM]

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