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9/25/2008 2:23:20 AM
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Thoughts on the the new sticky on the right...

[quote]This forum has lately been showing more and more of a blatant disregard for Rule Number Three of the Code of Conduct: "Play Nice". Even the MLG vs casual threads in the Halo 3 forums are more civil to each other. This mostly appears to be due to a specific subculture of those that frequent this forum, you know who you are. The first solution we thought of was to shut the forum down. While that approach does have some appeal, we're going to try a conventional approach before going nuclear. So, starting now: 1) Minimum ban for anything in the Flood is 14 days. Period. 2) The Play Nice rule will be strictly enforced. If you're a jerk, the mods will ban you. Report posts that violate this. If you don't, then see item number 4 below. The flood is not a blog, it isn't 4chan, it isn't for whatever the hell you want to post: it a general place for people of the Bungie community to talk about stuff other than bungie games. 3) People who whine about this get 14 day bans. Groups are available for unmoderated discussion, go there if you want to avoid us being heavy handed. 4) The nuclear option, shutting down the Flood, is still on the table, and the Bungie Community team reserves the right to close the forum if they feel it serves no constructive purpose. Consider yourselves on notice. I'm tired of putting up with this forum's attitude, and you're a configuration switch away from being shut down.[/quote] That's from Achronos/Tom himself. I can completely see where he is coming from about all this and I do understand that the mods have a lot to put up with, but I was just wondering a few things as I read through that. 1. It mentions that the flood is't a place to talk about whatever the hell we want, but a place for us to talk about stuff that isn't bungie related. This is where I'm confused. So what are we suppose to talk about? It just feels like it's overly strict, I mean it is just a forum. Not like we're paying money or anything to use it -although I understand it probably takes up bungies space costing THEM money. 2. Shutting the forum down. Doesn't this mean that all the trolls the mods try so hard to fight off, win? Like, how are we suppose to control what other people do? Know what I mean? I know the best thing is to just ignore those kind of threads that are asking for trouble but there will [b]always[/b] be people who just don't know better. Seems kinda unfair we have to pay the price for a few idiots. Anyone else care to share what they think? Overall, I think it's just getting a little too strict - but who knows, it's probably for the best and they have every right to do what they want.
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  • Alright, since this thread has turned into nothing more than a chat room, I'm ending it. You know the warning, you know the outcome if you guys fail to play nice. I suggest that if you don't like it, then follow the rules and report the spam.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] KRAZR [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Iloveeveryone I've been studying introductory psych, I have a midterm tomorrow.[/quote] sucks[/quote] Statistics and scientific research are extremely dry subjects. : ( <3
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Iloveeveryone I've been studying introductory psych, I have a midterm tomorrow.[/quote] sucks
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  • I've been studying introductory psych, I have a midterm tomorrow.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Iloveeveryone [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] KRAZR [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Iloveeveryone [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] KRAZR [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Iloveeveryone I think maybe that it's a bit harsh, but I will reduce the amount of inflammatory comments I make. <3[/quote] when your drunk[/quote] I'm not KRAZR. That's a mean thing to say Drunk. <3[/quote] Ok sorry, what happened to the little <3?[/quote] I'm a little tired, been studying for a few hours. <3[/quote] lol there it is. What have you been studying? [Edited on 09.24.2008 9:56 PM PDT]
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  • Leave the Flood alone! It's a human being!
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] KRAZR [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Iloveeveryone [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] KRAZR [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Iloveeveryone I think maybe that it's a bit harsh, but I will reduce the amount of inflammatory comments I make. <3[/quote] when your drunk[/quote] I'm not KRAZR. That's a mean thing to say Drunk. <3[/quote] Ok sorry, what happened to the little <3?[/quote] I'm a little tired, been studying for a few hours. <3
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Iloveeveryone [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] KRAZR [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Iloveeveryone I think maybe that it's a bit harsh, but I will reduce the amount of inflammatory comments I make. <3[/quote] when your drunk[/quote] I'm not KRAZR. That's a mean thing to say Drunk.[/quote] Ok sorry, what happened to the little <3?
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] KRAZR [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Iloveeveryone I think maybe that it's a bit harsh, but I will reduce the amount of inflammatory comments I make. <3[/quote] when your drunk[/quote] I'm not KRAZR. That's a mean thing to say Drunk.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] JNJ11 Well I don't think the "What leg is you -Blam!- resting on?" thread is helping our case.[/quote] That was my exact thought when I saw that thread. :-/
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Iloveeveryone I think maybe that it's a bit harsh, but I will reduce the amount of inflammatory comments I make. <3[/quote] What, like zero?
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Iloveeveryone I think maybe that it's a bit harsh, but I will reduce the amount of inflammatory comments I make. <3[/quote] when your drunk
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  • I think maybe that it's a bit harsh, but I will reduce the amount of inflammatory comments I make. <3
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  • Well I don't think the "What leg is you -Blam!- resting on?" thread is helping our case.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] squirrel dude I think that removing the forum is overblown, though I hate to admit it scares me. It's not like I have anywhere else to go on the internet.[/quote] It's just a forum, there are thousands like it.
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  • I think that removing the forum is overblown, though I hate to admit it scares me. It's not like I have anywhere else to go on the internet. I would suggest the ban being placed to 7 days instead of 14, but I guess the idea of a 7 day ban isn't severe enough for the intention of the web team, and it's really not that big ideal. It's really a move that's been long overdue, so I guess the regulations are much more strict to deal with that time span. Whatever, I don't post here enough anymore, so hopefully these rules won't have too much of an effect. It's very shrewd, I know.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Knightmare01 But seriously, if they destroy the Flood, I probably won't come to Bungie.net much, if not all.[/quote] Same here, there were other forums I was a regular in before I discovered Bungie.net, I don't care for any of them nearly as much as this site but if the flood went away I would go back to them, if I came back here it would just be to see what's new in H3 MM and whatever project they're up to next. [Edited on 09.24.2008 9:19 PM PDT]
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Butane123 I don't want to see the flood shut down, so if you guys do see someone posting crap, report it, don't ignore it. It only helps us help you. Seriously, I don't want to see it go. [/quote] Because then you would be [b][i]powerless![/b][/i]
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  • I don't want to see the flood shut down, so if you guys do see someone posting crap, report it, don't ignore it. It only helps us help you. Seriously, I don't want to see it go.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Happy Jack Man, I've been a member of the flood for years, and lately is been getting worse, I hope you guys can clean up your act, be a bit more civil and human, hope I can keep coming back here.[/quote]Happy Jack!!!!! I haven't seen you on in forever!!!!! *hugs*
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Anonymous User [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] evilcam I posted in a few decent threads here this weekend, but they were few and far in between. What makes a thread decent to me is something that warrants discussion, and likely has not already been discussed to death in cloned or repeat topics. Now, that is of course totally subjective, and that's just me. Even I would not likely stick to such a strict yet vague axiom for deciding what's worth discussing and what's not. Its one of those "you know it when you see it" things. [/quote] I can't think of a single topic that's allowed here that fits that. (I guess that's where the opinion part comes in) [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] evilcam A few years ago, this forum was just as stupid. The vast majority of the topics were inane and worthless, just like today. The difference is; there are so many more people here now. The problem we get from that is; many of the new people see what the existing morons are already doing, and emulate them. Back then, when new people would come along and want to get in on the discussion, they would have a decent chance at seeing how one should act on these boards. Because there are so many people posting here now, 'good' topics are pushed off the front page by the above lamented bad topics very quickly and easily now. Simply hoping that some time here and/or a few warnings/bans will knock them to their senses won't work anymore. There are simply too many people doing what they are not supposed to be doing for the mods to deal with it using the old methods. Add to that all the new people here every day who are trying to get into their own place in this community, and seeing it done wrong, and I think you have a massive problem.[/quote] I think it probably could have been dealt with better if there was more (or maybe better) moderation from the get go. It seems like for the past year the mods have just given up on this forum and now they're blaming us for something that they should have been preventing the entire time. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] evilcam Being new here is not a bad thing. I personally want as many members as we can handle, but those members must be shown what's acceptable and what's not. The old methods don't work anymore, because there is not real way to control this forums throttle anymore. [/quote] What are the mods going to be doing different? Actually enforcing the rules and moderating? Finally addressing the problems that they should have been doing in the first place? Why didn't they do that when it could have helped? And I highly doubt achronos would ever get rid of this forum. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Village Idiot77 I'll tell you one thing: If they shut down the Flood, their site will probably lose a lot of hits. Most will just migrate to an off-site, or storm other forums, posting the same way. I know it's out of hand, but I don't think this is the way to deal with it. If I were Archanos, I'd just stop moderating the Flood, but then again, I'm not the site manager.[/quote] Less moderation is what we've been getting, and it hasn't turned out so well. [/quote] answers, I have none
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Knightmare01 Not my beloved Flood : 0 But seriously, if they destroy the Flood, I probably won't come to Bungie.net much, if not all.[/quote] Yea i dont have Halo3 and I dont play my 360 so there would be no reason for me to get on B.net.
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  • meh, this forum has gotten repetitive anyways....could use a good purging. Edit: Lol, i'm only a heroic member now. [Edited on 09.24.2008 8:48 PM PDT]
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  • Not my beloved Flood : 0 But seriously, if they destroy the Flood, I probably won't come to Bungie.net much, if not all.
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Village Idiot77 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Accidentus I think we can all safely assume that if the Flood shut down we'd all move on with our lives.[/quote]You're right for the most part. There are some who make their entire life here.[/quote] Helloooooo!
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Accidentus I think we can all safely assume that if the Flood shut down we'd all move on with our lives.[/quote]You're right for the most part. There are some who make their entire life here.
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