[b]Below are collections of posts by people who think theirs more to Destiny's story than Bungie lets on.[/b] I was patrolling around the moon yesterday and was silently stalking Fallen Dregs trying to listen to alien banter. I moved too close and startled one of them, who turned around and gurgled in broken english (kind of how the Grunts in Halo did) "It's the Darkness!" before firing away at me... Wait. Are. We. The. Darkness? The more I think about it, the more it makes sense... WHY ELSE would aliens be relentlessly fighting us without much justification? Although I can't explain why the alien factions would be fighting each other. Maybe the Traveler is a weapon and we simply don't know it because we're under its spell? And the alien factions don't trust each other with the Traveler's power? Damn... This is why I love the open ended narrative Bungie creates, it eventually gets sifted down and sharpened over years of questions and added content to the worlds. Maybe the traveler has been to their worlds and caused great destruction. Maybe he needed a new army, we think we fight for the light but we are actually making the universe a much darker place. The Speaker has always seemed like a shady guy to me. It's an interesting point of view. This is blowing my mind right now. Think about it, the names of some of the enemies are Wizards, Knights, Acolytes but we're Titans, Hunters, Warlocks, which have negative or evil connotations to them. Titans in Greek mythology, hunters just killing things, warlocks wielding dark magic... I'm discussing it with a few friends and it's starting to make sense. We're basically an army of undead. And this whole space fantasy theme, makes the theory seem plausible. What about the Vex? What if they're like Cylons? Why haven't we seen any other humans elsewhere? So many questions...I'm not sure if I'm entirely sold, but every little detail seems to connect. This could be huge! [b]Read some of the card backs. On the back of "Legend: The Black Garden":[/b] I am Pujari. These are the visions I have had of the Black Garden. The Traveler moved across the face of the iron world. It opened the earth and stitched shut the sky. It made life possible. In these things there is always symmetry. Do you understand? This is not the beginning but it is the reason. The Garden grows in both directions. It grows into tomorrow and yesterday. The red flowers bloom forever. There are gardeners now. They came into the garden in vessels of bronze and they move through the groves in rivers of thought. This is the vision I had when I leapt from the Shores of Time and let myself sink: I walked beneath the blossoms. The light came from ahead and the shadows of the flowers were words. They said things but I will not write them here. At the end of the path grew a flower in the shape of a Ghost. I reached out to pluck it and it cut me with a thorn. I bled and the blood was Light. The Ghost said to me: You are a dead thing made by a dead power in the shape of the dead. All you will ever do is kill. You do not belong here. This is a place of life. The Traveler is life, I said. You are a creature of Darkness. You seek to deceive me. But I looked behind me, down the long slope where the blossoms tumbled in the warm wind and the great trees wept sap like blood or wine, and I felt doubt. When my Ghost raised me from the sea there was a thorn-cut in my left hand and it has not healed since. edit: From the card "Enemies : The Darkness:" The card mentions varying ideas on what The Darkness is from the point of view of different groups on Earth. Certain positions - often labeled heretical - imply that the Traveler itself triggered the Collapse, or that it knew the Darkness was coming for it and hoped to use the Solar System as a sacrifice or a proxy army. The Binary Star cult is one notable example.