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originally posted in: Prox chat griefing, WTF bungie.
9/2/2014 7:35:17 PM
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TL;DR Griefers and trolls a legit concern... Also believe technologically too difficult for consoles right now... I will critique a little and add my spin on it... I can see where Bungie is coming from with a generalization of CoD players trolling players... Keep in mind people make accounts specially to troll players (XboxBing)... You will still experience people online and can still talk in certain circumstances... This time you actively have to make friends... For some this asks too much. Now for my opinon. I believe that griefers and trolls are a concern... Let me elaborate... I for one like to troll online... But have no need for it in game... It would be annoying for someone to come up and ask to party up (an attempt to be social) and me being forced to say no (if i am not in the mood) and coming off rude. Then they can just follow you around bothering you and killing what you are about to kill. GRANTED they can do all that without chat... the key is with chat you're giving trolls food by more actively expressing your dislike for wanting to team up at that specific time. We all know not to feed trolls. For the second part... I was thinking this before the PAX panel... There is only one map per planet and then the one tower... ALL of Destiny's population will obviously be in these areas... Constantly coming or going.... So imagine playing CoD or (insert X FPS here) with 16 players constantly leaving and entering the lobby... It could get werid... Onto the PAX panel... They described the infrastructure in depth to us...or more so than before. I don't know all the specifics but using their analogy of the mothyard being a bubble... Every little section that has a name is a bubble... Let's say you're talking to someone and they cross that threshold and you aren't close enough to them... They are now in a different bubble...You walk into the one they are in... They are not x distance you were from them as they got matchmade into a different lobby. With people constantly changing and having such a large population the way it is in destiny in the areas... I believe that as of right now it is technologically too difficult... We haven't really had a game on consoles using maps/areas they way they do with continuous matchmaking...
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  • they did mention prox chat, more indirectly tho, while giving an example of how things have changed in their coding and so it makes things like prox chat more difficult, but the guy to the right of luke, and the girl (i forget their names) did seem to want it, you can tell by them kinda hesitating to bring it up and the guy was saying how we have so many smart engineers now and this whole corporation of intelligent people ready to work on any problem, "we can do pretty much anything or rework things if we have messed up" but he said going through the process of getting the "ok" to do so has changed because its so much larger now is the only problem. but they basically said they "CAN" do it, and if thats what the community wants they will find a way to do it..Im sure its easily possibly with maybe have one area or "bubble" having localized prox chat, maybe not every one, or maybe just the tower but im sure they can and will if we voice our opinions enough and send them our ideas. It would, I think overall, be more beneficial for the game than it would hurt it.

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  • Glad you read that wall of text. I believe the other male's name is actually Luke also. Remember Smart Luke and Funny Luke. And she is...I forgot she mentioned it when Smart Luke scrambled some words around. Anywho No doubt they will have something implemented by Destiny 2? Again like you said coding made it hard but in all reality is finding the correct way to do it while sorting out the more complicated ways.

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  • oooo ya, they are both Luke! and the girl is Ryan Ellis btw.. I looked it up. but yea I hope they will and you never know, they did talk about having patches in this game as well.. and the WoW players on the panel were excited by that fact lol.. Ryan and smart Luke, but yea, I feel like they will probably do something eventually and put other things in as well dealing with the MM and custom games possible.. who knows.

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