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Exploring the Exo:

Hey Bungie Community! In my wanderings through these forums, someone asked me: "What are the Exo?" I'm a really philosophical guy, so I started my answer to help out and tell him what we know, but as I dove deeper it developed into a discussion not only of what an Exo is, but what it means to "be" Exo. The remainder of this post is my answer to him (heavily edited and expanded), and I wanted to share my thoughts with all of you to maybe provide a new perspective on, and perhaps a new appreciation for: the race of Exo. With that introduction, I give you: Exploring The Exo: The Exo were war machines designed and built by humans. The Traveler wiped their memories of all of the time before and then blessed them with true sentience. The Exo are true thinking, feeling beings now. They are still machines inside and out, but they absolutely have full and evolving personalities like everyone else. The Exo must confront their lack of mortality (an Exo lives forever with effective maintenance), to my knowledge they cannot mate or reproduce (I'm fairly certain the secrets of building the Exo was lost in the collapse as well), and that they cannot remember any of their existence before the Traveler uplifted them. There are both male and female Exo. I believe this is only for the purposes of defining themselves as having a male or female persona now that they are sentient, rather than for mating capability. The body types are likely different to accent and celebrate that "choice." I know gender isn't a choice per se [at birth], so when each Exo was uplifted by the Traveler, it was likely "born" in that moment and must have realized that they were either one or the other. That issue of gender without gender roles may be another of issues that every Exo faces. They also have no childhood, no learning process through years of experiences under the guidance of parents to make them who they are. They were static. One moment they did not exist from their own perspective, and the next moment they did. Its like their entire personality, all of who they are... was just given to them, handed down from on high, rather than developed over years of growing up and experiencing things. Its gotta be a shocking way to enter the world, and it can't be comforting to know that SOMETHING ELSE decided who YOU were going to be. To look at another possibility, assume for a moment that when they were born in that moment of uplifting it was as if they knew nothing at all (emulating a human newborn), then they would have learned everything from humans (in the Golden age and early stages of the collapse there were no Awoken, and those who existed in the dark ages lived almost exclusively on the Reef. This would make it very unlikely for an Awoken to have ever "raised" an Exo). What would that mean for them? How alien would it feel to sit down to a family dinner when you cannot grasp the concept of food? As children, these Exo would not have been smaller than their adoptive parents, they would in most cases be physically superior. By what method then could a young Exo be disciplined? As a sentient being, every Exo should be vulnerable to feelings like pride or anger. How would a proud and self aware Exo take orders from a mother or father figure whom they could beat to a pulp in seconds? Why must he or she listen to those who cannot enforce their own rules? In the end I don't know if one or either of these cases is the truth concerning the uplifting of the Exo, but both possibilities are rife with unique challenges that simply are not faced by members of any other race. The Exo are philosophically pretty cool. They can make really interesting characters, especially when/if they learn that their entire race were once unthinking slaves used by humans for protection and warfare. This event raises some wicked questions. How does that make them feel about the robots that we see doing all of the menial labour in the tower now? Would they understand that the use of a non sentient machine is different from slavery, or would they see what they could have been and be disgusted? Even better, how does that make an Exo feel about being a Guardian?A being brought back from the dead for the singular purpose of protecting the City by roaming the solar system and killing every single threat to its inhabitants? Does that diminish them once again into no more than slaves used by others for protection and warfare?With the knowledge of his or her race's past available to them, An Exo guardian might feel more like a slave than a hero. As if we didn't have enough degrees of separation already, the Exo also don't sleep which is admittedly badass and quite useful, but could also be very lonely in a world of Humans and Awoken. Could this make Exo society self contained? When the Humans and the Awoken of the City go to sleep (I can't comment on the sleep patterns of the Awoken, they may not match those of humans, but lets assume for now that they're similar), the Exo population in its entirety remains exactly the same. Naturally they could spend this time together, and no member of the other races can be there for them all the time. Eventually the differences in schedule and culture could lead to many Exo folk drifting away from organic society, preferring their own kind exclusively. There are likely no rituals for eating, there are none for sleeping, waste excretion is a non issue. Routine maintenance could be better understood by those who also perform it upon themselves, and of course there must be many other issues besides. In addition, organic races would eventually be surpassed in knowledge and wisdom by the Exo, who have lived every moment since the moment of uplifting to the present (with the exception of those who died and were raised as Guardians, they/we clearly missed a big chunk of time). The sheer number of experiences they have would make most Exo very wise and interesting people. This raises another interesting question. Does the Exo have limited memory storage space? Of course it probably does internally. Exo memories were never designed by humans, but rather were "granted" by the Traveler. The physical computational memory used by them as machines of war before their transformation is certainly quite significant, but is that how they record their memories now? If that was so there would be a defined limit to what an Exo can know and remember. This is true for all races, but the Exo may be forced to actively pick and choose which of its experiences, which parts of its life to simply erase. At first glance such an ability is both a blessing and a curse. It is also one more thing that may prevent the Exo on a fundamental level from fitting into the human societies we all know. Moving on from there, we've assumed so far that as sentient mechanical beings the Exo are fully emotionally capable... so then what in Gods name does an Exo do when they fall in love with an organic? It could happen to an Exo as easily as to a Human, and as any wise person understands, we can't choose who to love. The Exo don't need sexuality as part of their companionship, but its presence in organic life could make that a serious barrier to her (or him). They could not produce offspring with that person, and if they were exclusive romantically, they would condemn their partner to a life with no sexual component, and more importantly no children. Then, even if all that works out, when the Exo's organic partner dies, they have to continue on alone. Nevermind all of the potential social stygma around the idea of organic/synthetic relationships. Like I said earlier, the Exo are philosophically very interesting. Just by virtue of their birth race they can be quite tragic characters. They must shoulder burdens we can only even wonder at. They see a World they cannot be a part of that has existed since before they themselves were even an idea. They owe the Traveler their "existence" (in its Cartesian definition), but they would not exist without the Humans who built their bodies. All they are, the good and bad, was someone else's decision. Do they love the others for making the right decisions, or hate them for making the wrong ones? Should they thank us for their existence, or blame us for the pain they suffer because of it? There is an old saying that "To 'ere is human, to forgive, divine." The Exo are neither. Thanks for reading -Thoughtfully yours, TheDestined

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  • With how advanced the humans during the Golden Age seem to have been, I feel we can safely assume they could create hyperintelligent AI. It would make sense because they were created to help fight the darkness. An AI that can learn and feel is much more reliable on the battlefield than pre-programmed software. And since this AI can learn, it would only be a matter of time before personality, morality, and emotions formed. And there you have yourself a sentient intelligence capable of complex thought. The different genders are possibly to help assimilate the Exos into the military. When they have body types similar to men and women, humans would be more likely to acclimate to them. Would you be more comfortable fighting alongside the Exos or an unskinned T-800?

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  • In all my visits to gaming forums I have never seen a post quite like this one. You really are a philosophical scholar!

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  • Really interesting idea of exos falling in love with organics, and their lack of sexuality being a potential relationship barrier. Although I imagine someone who was asexual might do quite well in a romantic relationship with an exo

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    • I have to say very nicely done. The ideal of them being Immortal or lasting for a long time can make good stories. A Exo Titan could prefect the arts if War. A Exo Hunter could master the ways of stealth and tracking like no other. A Exo Warlock could unlock the Travelers most powerful secrets(or the Darkness).

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    • Awesome read! Thanks for posting

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    • Mind=blown. Thank you.

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    • Love is a chemical reaction almost always induced by a desire to mate. It is doubtful that an Exo could fall in love the same way humans do, and if they did it would very likely be a dangerous, obsessive love caused by computational errors or irregularities. Good post though, the forums need more of this.

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    • hey there mr martin

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    • Edited by Black Thorn: 8/16/2014 12:06:02 AM
      Are they still seen as slaves by humans or do humans feel the Exo are equal to them? Also it seems like the Exo was given a greater purpose to exist by the Traveler which could had caused a conflict with humans. I hope the story of the Exo and other races give us some clarity. As far as romance is concerned in this game, humans are almost extinct so any companionship with someone they trust is better than none.

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      • What if the Exo were the products of human technology reaching singularity.

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      • Good post right up 'til the end where you commit an act of pure self indulgence and hubris by signing off with your name. I know you wrote it, you don't need to make sure i'm aware of how clever you've been.

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        • Better than my, they're sex-bots, theory..

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        • I think the Exo fight for the last City because they know its necessary and not because they are forced to ... If an Exo knows that he is immortal or at last live very long why should he take the risk to fight and get crushed by a Cabal solider in a glimpse of time? Because they know that they would die as the last species in the city ... but die. Or maybe they need the City for their maintenance or energy source or something like taht.

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          • First off, bravo Sir or Madam, this is the kind of thought provoking, brilliant post that I enjoy to take part in. All points you bring to mind are very interesting, and really make one think about where todays society, in the real world, is going with technology. We are experiencing leaps and bounds in AI research, to the point of progressing being a question of should we, rather than can we. Now, I believe that anyone familiar with the writings of Isaac Asimov, will have a better understanding of where the Exo could come from. At what point does programing become a soul. The defining feature of technology, particularly Intelligence programs, is evolution. An example would be that early Exo were no more than simple machines, receiving commands, then executing. Over time, they would gradually learn and adapt to there circumstances. My biggest reference would be the movie/story, Bicentennial Man. A machine with a single purpose, through some miracle, gains sentience. At first, he is like a child, learning about the world through deferent methods. He stumbles at first, needing guidance. As he learns, he becomes more human. Yes, he has greater memory and problem solving abilatys, but these are tempered with the every changing ways of society. He eventualy leaves on his own, seeking others like him. Now this is where the Exo differ greatly, as there would be others like them, able to understand how they "felt". Of course, you add an un-quantifiable like The Traveler, something that is able to manipulate all around it, and the rules change. The consept of light is heavy in this game. They speak of all things being full of light. In this sense, light in a creature is their soul. They speak of the Traveler filling the once mindless war machines with light, or in the games realm, a soul. The mind is no more than electrical signals, and organic soft and hardware. the difference from person to person is personalty.

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          • I feel that most are forgetting the "fantasy" element of Destiny. Light is spoken of being inside all beings, as a spirit or soul. The Exo are described as having been filled with light by the Traveler. This could explain how one could fall in love with a human. The term Soul mate comes to mind. In a scientific view, there light/soul has a certain frequency. Frequency always seek similar frequencies. Love is more than just a physical attraction, it is an attraction of personalities. As for the gender difference between Exos, that can be attributed to the essence of there soul/light. If they were simple war machines, they would have likely look the same, with no difference of appearance, even among the males. It says that the Traveler remade them, who to say that didn't include their bodies. If the soul/light that was placed inside said Exo had a female essence/personality, it would make sense for the body to match. The thing that we forget is that no one truly understands how and what the Traveler is capable of. It can transform Mars and Venus into livable worlds, increase lifespans, and for lack of a better word perform MIRACLES. After all, isn't all life just forms of organic machinery.

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            • I love the conversations this topic brings up, but the annoying analytical part of my brain screams, " It's just a -blam!-ing game." I love this none the less. Destined, you are brilliant!!

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              • I explored an Exo once and it made my special place sore. Never again.

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              • But why do the female exos have breasts?

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                • Edited by Caelos81: 8/10/2014 12:52:50 PM
                  Interesting conjectures. It is difficult to know for sure how the Exo must think or feel about their situation as nobody in that universe remembers how Exo's work. To quote " Exos are so advanced that nothing short of a Ghost can understand their inner functions. [b]They remain ciphers, even to themselves[/b]; their origins and purpose lost to time." They were indeed made for war, then rebooted during the collapse. That reboot most likely wiped their memories before that time. But in terms of how they actually work, how information is stored for example, given the technology of that time, I would guess that their memory banks could probably last several lifetimes. And if space is running out. They wouldn't need to delete. They could just transfer the memories to another medium for posterity (if they need to). What is interesting is the description that says Exos are powerful, tireless, and SINISTER. Oooh. I wonder WHY sinister? Maybe while they are capable of emotions, maybe they don't have a clear grasp of what is socially acceptable behavior (morals) are? What makes them sinister? How can an Exo be a guardian and at the same time sinister? Would that reflect poor judgment on behalf of the Traveler? So many questions. @_@ [url]http://destiny.wikia.com/wiki/Exo#cite_note-GI_Print_Article-3[/url]

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                  • Exo are self aware war machines. The traveler didn't make us self aware

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                  • Decided about a week ago Exo will be my race, this thinking further solidifies that decision.

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                    • This is easily the most civil forum I have ever seen. Apparently the people who read and understand this are of higher intelligence. These are intelligent debates, not ignorant arguments.

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                      • Edited by AttackHelicopter: 8/10/2014 3:04:08 PM
                        TL;DR edit: okay I went back and read it and holy smfh this is really good!

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                        • SWEET MOTHER TERESA ON THE HOOD OF A MERCEDES BENZ... That must have taken a LONG time to type out! It would have really sucked if you where on your phone at the time of posting this! Now THAT would suck! [spoiler]YOU SOUND LIKE A MAJESTIC F*CKING EAGLE!!! [/spoiler]

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                          • That was an excellent read, thank you. I too like philosophizing on parts of Destiny. And you really hit on my favorite topic of the Exos. I suppose that's why I like playing as a exo and while playing through the game I really am going to try and fill my grimore so as to understand the Destiny universe in its entirety. I also hope to find more on the exos and their feelings on many of the topics you stated. I almost can feel an urge from my character to understand his existence and meaning.

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                          • I wanted to further add to this exploration of the persona of exos using the following link [url]http://destiny.wikia.com/wiki/Banshee-44[/url] It sheds light and seems to add more to the OP's hypothesis. TLDR; Banshee-44 is an Exo gunsmith in the tower. He exhibits emotions such as depression and dry humor. Depression because he is apparently concerned about the loss of sense of purpose and memory wipe as well as memory breakage. His lines are interesting to say the least. "I'll remember you...probably."

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