I've got another category of people that don't like PVP, whether or not they actually suck at it: tryhards. People that get butthurt when their KDR isn't such-and-such, or when they get one-shotted in the face by a Golden Gun (which, to be fair, [i]they[/i] could use too, if they wanted), seem to have much less fun than people who are interested in a challenge and improving their skill actually. Also, I've noticed (thankfully) that hipfire is gimped in Destiny--one of the things I like about PVP is that it's fast-paced but discourages spray-and-pray. QQ

the only people who say PvP in Destiny is good are kids with better reflex who like to pwn noobs. = fact

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