Ok, before you all start throwing things at me, I want you to know that this is wild specualtion. WILD! But in one topic at gamefaqs, the poster actually makes a pretty good argument that the game comes out sept.13. It's about the last bungie update, particularily about the picture of the calendar in the bottom. http://cgi.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.asp?board=2000201&topic=13579756 theres the link, and please remember, I am NOT saying that this is definate in any way, shape or form. I just think you should always keep an eye out for things like this