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12/7/2012 9:22:09 PM
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Margaret Parangosky: when will she die?

Come on, how long will she live? How old is she already? 96? So she arrested Halsey for saving humanity while she violates the laws of the UNSC military by more than stretching her service time?! Isn't this a bit ridiculous?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh If you had an ounce of reading comprehension you would have seen I said that she was arrested "not for the Spartans themselves." Parangosky arrested Halsey because of the cloning program, which was unauthorized. "I spend every day ending people's lives and manipulating them, doing things most in uniform would consider unconscionable. [u]I'm not going to pretend there's some higher morality at work here,[/u] but I'm prepared to do the dirty work to spare the consciences of others, and my barbarous acts mean fewer people die than would have done if I'd play by the rules. I think that's as near as I can come to tolerating my reflection in the mirror." Halsey: "So why am I so much worse than you?" Parangosky: [u]"Oh I'm not sure you are. I'm a different kind of guilty.[/u] But you [i]lied[/i] to me, Catherine." Halsey: "About what, in particular?" Parangosky: "Cloning." Halsey: "You knew about that." Parangosky: [u]"Not until years later.[/u] Parangosky makes it quite clear that she arrested Halsey on legal grounds, "massaging the budget" to make the clones. Then there is the problem with Halsey kidnapping Kelly and hiding away on Onyx from the UNSC, desserting, basically, from the UNSC and stealing a valuable asset. The only reason Parangosky brings up [i]why[/i] she made the clones was to prove to Halsey that she very much does deserve what she's getting, that she acted out of selfish reasons (because the parents had to watch their child die an agonizingly slow painful death from a mysterious molecular disease exclusive to clones, risking exposure of the program, which is what happened in the end. Alternatively, if Halsey didn't know they were going to die, why not just use the clones?). Obviously they dislike each other, and Parangosky is relishing in tormenting Halsey, but she only did it to begin with on legal grounds. As Halsey says to herself: "She could have said that years ago." But Parangosky kept Halsey on board in her position because that is when she was most valuable; she was smart, and put her personal hatred aside for the greater good. This is quite the self control for a character who in Ghosts of Onyx was established as so vengeful "to his knowledge, only one person had crossed her and lived." That one person happened to be Halsey. However, as of Glasslands "we're not dependant on your skills now, so I don't have to stomach your sense of entitlement one second longer." There is no statute of limitations for fudging the budget on an unauthorized project under the nose of ONI, AND kidnapping a Spartan and desserting the UNSC. Parangosky then arrests her. I am baffled about what people don't get about this. I feel like I read a totally different book half the time.[/quote] Yes it was. Everything was already planned out by ONI beforehand, kidnapping kids and replacing them with flash-clones was ONI's own plan and would have occurred with, or without, Halsey and her input. Contrary to what 343idiocy and Travissty try to imply, ONI is actually smart and know how to cover their tracks and what would be needed to do so. And don't even bother throwing Traviss' Halsey demonizing, bull-blam!- excuse for a plot at me. The idea that Parangosky, or [i][b][u]anyone[/u][/b][/i] high up within the chain of command didn't know the details of the Spartan Program as they were occurring is patently ludicrous in the extreme. Also, as Daefaron already pointed out, Ackerson made mention of the flash-clones in Ghosts of Onyx without Parangosky even raising so much as an eyebrow at it. And what's more, if even Colonel Ackerson knows about the true, intimate details of the Spartan Program, then the entire premise is flawed. Even [i]if[/i] the flash-clones were some unauthorized secret that Parangosky found out about later, it's not something that would be common knowledge the likes of Colonel James Ackerson would have access to or people would be bandying about as if it was nothing. I already said, the flashclones were ONI's plan. And even if it wasn't, how is it at all selfish at all? Taking the kids is what could be called selfish, giving the parents closure and tying up loose ends so that suspicion never has the possibility of falling on ONI or potentially leading back to them save for someone opening their mouth and blabbing about it. [i]Someone[/i] would have caught on to the common threads if the kids were just kidnapped. There is nothing investigation worthy with a kid dying of unfortunate natural causes....75 kids just up and disappearing [i]is[/i] something noticeable, especially kids as brilliant as the Spartan IIs and with as much potential as they showed. There was nothing unnatural about the way the flash-clones died in the least, they all died of natural causes that were the results of flash-cloning a whole human body being imperfect and flawed. The clones weren't something engineered to die, they died because flash-cloning, which is what would be needed to sell the deception and have none of the parents or legal guardians any wiser, just simply did not work on a whole human body, and ONI could not afford to and did not want to wait, they needed work to start then and there. The quite idiotic handling with Naomi's parents is ONI's own ineptitude and idiocy in handling the matter and has nothing at all to do with the cloning in and of itself. Parangosky left Halsey alone because she had no choice. She can't just get rid of whoever she likes without reason or whenever the mood strikes her. ONI's power, no matter how extensive it might be, has clear and defined limits. If she could have gotten away with offing Halsey or removing her from the picture, Maggot Parangosky would have done it in a heart-beat, she did not have the power or ability to do so though, and so, she was forced to leave Halsey alone. It wasn't about usefulness at all, as the dear Fuhrer of Evil Inc. still has Halsey working on things. It was always about not having someone firmly under her wrinkled, twisted, taloned claw of a thumb. The Fall of Reach is what has given Maggot Parangosky an opportunity to show even more proof of why she is completely unfit for command and one of the most self-serving, tyrannical despots in Halo. Everything is always about Parangosky and what [i]she[/i] thinks should be done and no one and nothing else matters but her own will. There are no legal grounds whatsoever for Parangosky to arrest Halsey, and no matter how much anyone tries to dress it up as an arrest, it clearly was not, nothing will change it from what it really is, an illegal kidnapping and forced slave labor. There was no trial, or sentencing by a judge and jury, nothing except Parangosky yet again declaring herself to be above the law and a law unto herself and deciding she's allowed to do whatever she wants. Obviously no one cared that Halsey went to Onyx with Kelly, or otherwise Hood would have ordered an arrest on her to Blue Team when they were given their orders to head there, or to the Prowler that was stationed above Onyx during the battle. And no one except Halsey knew about her plans to try and save the Spartans from the war except Halsey herself and Kurt...who is now dead. As it stands, there are no legal grounds to arrest anyone, the only one that would be known about by anyone was dismissed and treated as a non-issue by the highest up in the chain of command. Not to mention ONI doesn't even have the power or authority to arrest anyone, they are not law enforcement, unless specifically put onto such a case they don't have the power to make an arrest on someone, the most they're legally allowed to do is detain someone until an investigation can be made and/or a trial held. They most certainly do not have the power or authority to act as judge, jury, and executioner.

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