[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] OrderedComa [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spartan1995324 In the whole story of Halo, the good guys have their point of view seen in the games, the bad guys have it seen in the books. The good guys get more publicity, so I don't see what the complaint is. [/quote] Actually that isn't accurate at all >_> None of the books have been from the perspective of the bad guys, not even Cole Protocol, Thel is not once presented as evil or one of the villains, and he's one of the lead characters. Maccabeus isn't a villain either, before Tartarus killed him he was starting to turn his back on the Covenant religion. None of the books have been about the evil characters or villains, they've sometimes gotten a point of view section within the books, like Zuka Zamamee, but the stories are not about them. What gave you that idea?[/quote]I thought we were discussing the "trash lands" books specifically... [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] OrderedComa [quote]If the other side is eliminated for good, you never have to worry about them again. That much is fact. Parangosky wants the Elites dead for some of the reasons France wanted to punish Germany after WW1. Germany had caused a lot of destruction, and France wasn't willing to go through that again. If France had had their way, Germany would have even worse of than it already was. After WWI Germany wasn't really a massive threat. Then look what happened. They left Germany alive. They could have broken it up into splinters. They could have wiped out the German population. Instead they chose to let Germany live and lick its wounds. Then look what happened. Germany came back stronger than ever. Maggie fears that. She doesn't want the Elites coming back like Germany did. She wants the problem solved for good. Killing all the Elites IS an option, and it's one that would prevent the Elites from rising again. That's a fact. If the Elites were extinct, they can't rise up. Do I agree with that? No. Is it a permanent solution? Yes. Maggie and Hood both want what's best for humanity. Neither of them want a repeat of the Human-Covenant war. Maggie has just decided to go down a much darker route.[/quote] The two are not even remotely alike except in one side wanting revenge on the other for no other reason than feeling slighted and being petty. In addition, World War II would have never happened, not with Germany as one of the aggressors anyways, if the whole Treaty of Versailles fiasco hadn't been imposed on them after WWI. Hitler didn't rise because Germany was allowed to continue on, he rose to power because the allies chose to stomp all over Germany with the surrender treaty and rob the nation of its dignity. I raise you a counter point, look what happened after World War II, rather than imposing harsh terms and abusive conditions on Germany or Japan, the allies treated them rather graciously and helped them rebuild after the war, and they haven't shown tendencies like during WWII since. All anything like the Treaty of Versailles or what Maggot Parangosky is trying to do will be causing more violence and breeding hatred that will lead to more trouble down the road. Parangosky has been quite clearly shown to not want what's best for the human race, she may [i]claim[/i] that and delude herself with thinking that's what she wants, but that's not true at all. All she wants is her own way, and that is revenge, plain and simple petty, spiteful revenge. As I've said several times before, if humanity's best interests were truly what Parangosky had at heart, she would not be going against the plans of her own government committing treason. She would be working to root out people trying to cause a ruckus and create more war like Telcam, Jul, the Servants of Abiding Truth, and the groups/people that would be willing to join the Storm, not arming them and helping them try to overthrow the Arbiter. As I've also said before, many, many times in fact, the Elites aren't a threat or a danger at all. They're in fact, potential allies of humanity, those who would be enemies are a ridiculously small portion of their population, the majority want peace and no more war with the human race.[/quote]The Treaty of Versailles didn't go far enough. It like "half gutted" Germany, causing them to have a reason to rise up again. If they had finished the job properly ("properly" being totally demolishing Germany) then Germany wouldn't have been around to rise up. If there are no Elites left... There is no way for them to rise up is there? I personally agree with the alliance between Humanity and Elites. Like post WWII, Humanity should lend the Elites a hand so that the Elites think we're not a war mongering species (even though we are). Do note that allies can be threats as well. If the USA turned on Canada, the USA could very well win. Therefore despite them being allies, the USA is also a threat to Canada.