Kindof agree with OP. Fighting for weapons and equipment and map control was what made halo halo. 4 is still much much better than reach and I enjoy the multiplayer alot but it really does just feel like a colorful COD with shields at this point. Not that that isn't fun, just it seems to take away the entire cooperative element. Also is it just me or are the vehicles weak as hell? I seem to remember explosives being needed to take down a tank. The gun, grenade, melee, play is very solid IMO though. [Edited on 11.19.2012 9:07 PM PST]