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1/6/2013 1:37:09 AM
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This is why Hockey is the real manliest sport.
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0CfT8dn_7Y#t=1m12s]Because[/url] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIlLbJHKw8M#t=25s]hockey[/url].
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Big Boy1229 How's the NHL doing these days?[/quote]They're out of their lockout.
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[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk3qIjz5EDM]Big, clean hits > fights[/url]
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Anyone else remember [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhM3ET3ld1A]this insane[/url] shootout between The Rangers and The Capitals?
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Unbelievable.
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[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ddim6Yx3mI]Hockey[/url]
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Hockey fights are great. If you disagree, well, you're wrong.
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So a bunch of whiners fighting over a game?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] I AM THOR Not really...just shows bad sportsmanship. [/quote] and grown men acting like children. Just pathetic.
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Why did no one counter my post about the Islanders being absolutely terribad? Seriously, wut.
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yep, hockeymasterrace
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Owned Maybe [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Marinade [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Owned Maybe But it is banned. Hence why there's a penalty. What would banning it mean to you? Let's say they do "ban" it. What would change? They'd still get penalized. I have NO IDEA what your definition or that wiki article meant by "banning" when you still get penalized.[/quote] A penalty is not banning. Banning would be forbidding, and suspending players who do it. This has been brought up before and turned down every time. Since the NHL doesn't think it's banned fighting, I'm not going to either. You can keep being delusional if you want to though.[/quote] But having a penalty does mean its banned. And yes, it is forbidden. You're forbidden from fighting in hockey, otherwise you get a penalty. You seriously just don't know what banning means I guess. Suspending someone would just be adding to the penalty.[/quote] The NHL doesn't think it has banned fighting and considers it part of the game. You think they have banned it. That's actually funny to me.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Marinade [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Owned Maybe But it is banned. Hence why there's a penalty. What would banning it mean to you? Let's say they do "ban" it. What would change? They'd still get penalized. I have NO IDEA what your definition or that wiki article meant by "banning" when you still get penalized.[/quote] A penalty is not banning. Banning would be forbidding, and suspending players who do it. This has been brought up before and turned down every time. Since the NHL doesn't think it's banned fighting, I'm not going to either. You can keep being delusional if you want to though.[/quote] But having a penalty does mean its banned. And yes, it is forbidden. You're forbidden from fighting in hockey, otherwise you get a penalty. You seriously just don't know what banning means I guess. Suspending someone would just be adding to the penalty. [Edited on 01.06.2013 12:07 AM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Owned Maybe But it is banned. Hence why there's a penalty. What would banning it mean to you? Let's say they do "ban" it. What would change? They'd still get penalized. I have NO IDEA what your definition or that wiki article meant by "banning" when you still get penalized.[/quote] A penalty is not banning. Banning would be forbidding, and suspending players who do it. This has been brought up before and turned down every time. Since the NHL doesn't think it's banned fighting, I'm not going to either. You can keep being delusional if you want to though.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Marinade [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Owned Maybe [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Marinade [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Owned Maybe [/quote] Except for, you know, that whole thing where "most players and administrators continue to insist that fighting stay as a permanent element of organized ice hockey" [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_in_ice_hockey#Efforts_to_ban_fighting]see here[/url]. That there is recognized etiquette to fights in hockey is another example that, at the NHL level, it is considered part of the game. I never said that fighting is what makes hockey manly. I'm merely pointing out that, for the NHL, most players, administrators, coaches, staff and commissioners recognize that it is part of the game. To be honest, what makes Hockey manly, as far as I'm concerned is the speed, hits, grit and toughness the players exhibit. You can't be a wuss and play Hockey. You'll just get really badly hurt.[/quote] You can show me all the articles you want. Until they remove the penalty for fighting, it's not a part of the game.[/quote] I took issue with your statement that it's not a part of the game. Which was completely separate from whether or not fighting makes something manly. In the NHL it is part of the game. Banning it has been brought up, but has been turned down every time because it is considered by the majority of players, owners, coaches, administrators and fans to be part of the game. Until it is banned I will consider it part of the game.[/quote] But it is banned. Hence why there's a penalty. What would banning it mean to you? Let's say they do "ban" it. What would change? They'd still get penalized. I have NO IDEA what your definition or that wiki article meant by "banning" when you still get penalized.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Owned Maybe [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Marinade [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Owned Maybe [/quote] Except for, you know, that whole thing where "most players and administrators continue to insist that fighting stay as a permanent element of organized ice hockey" [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_in_ice_hockey#Efforts_to_ban_fighting]see here[/url]. That there is recognized etiquette to fights in hockey is another example that, at the NHL level, it is considered part of the game. I never said that fighting is what makes hockey manly. I'm merely pointing out that, for the NHL, most players, administrators, coaches, staff and commissioners recognize that it is part of the game. To be honest, what makes Hockey manly, as far as I'm concerned is the speed, hits, grit and toughness the players exhibit. You can't be a wuss and play Hockey. You'll just get really badly hurt.[/quote] You can show me all the articles you want. Until they remove the penalty for fighting, it's not a part of the game.[/quote] I took issue with your statement that it's not a part of the game. Which was completely separate from whether or not fighting makes something manly. In the NHL it is part of the game. Banning it has been brought up, but has been turned down every time because it is considered by the majority of players, owners, coaches, administrators and fans to be part of the game. Until it is banned I will consider it part of the game.
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I love hockey and it is manly, but rugby is the manliest sport of them all.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Marinade [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Owned Maybe [/quote] Except for, you know, that whole thing where "most players and administrators continue to insist that fighting stay as a permanent element of organized ice hockey" [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_in_ice_hockey#Efforts_to_ban_fighting]see here[/url]. That there is recognized etiquette to fights in hockey is another example that, at the NHL level, it is considered part of the game. I never said that fighting is what makes hockey manly. I'm merely pointing out that, for the NHL, most players, administrators, coaches, staff and commissioners recognize that it is part of the game. To be honest, what makes Hockey manly, as far as I'm concerned is the speed, hits, grit and toughness the players exhibit. You can't be a wuss and play Hockey. You'll just get really badly hurt.[/quote] You can show me all the articles you want. Until they remove the penalty for fighting, it's not a part of the game. Also, why are you being an instigator when the whole point of my first post was that fighting shouldn't be a reason as to why you think hockey is "more manly" (whatever the hell that means) than another sport. Who cares if it is or isn't? I'm glad we agree that it isn't a factor in the "manliest" of the sport (seriously though, wtf constituents "manliness"? What a stupid concept). In all seriousness, I could easily say you're MORE of a man for NOT fighting. Would I be right? Who knows? It's all relative. Which is why any arguments about what makes something more manly than something else stupid, trivial, and ultimately a waste of time.
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[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Utxb-kzvFZU[/url]My reply.[/url]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Owned Maybe [/quote] Except for, you know, that whole thing where "most players and administrators continue to insist that fighting stay as a permanent element of organized ice hockey" [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_in_ice_hockey#Efforts_to_ban_fighting]see here[/url]. That there is recognized etiquette to fights in hockey is another example that, at the NHL level, it is considered part of the game. I never said that fighting is what makes hockey manly. I'm merely pointing out that, for the NHL, most players, administrators, coaches, staff and commissioners recognize that it is part of the game. To be honest, what makes Hockey manly, as far as I'm concerned is the speed, hits, grit and toughness the players exhibit. You can't be a wuss and play Hockey. You'll just get really badly hurt.
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I play hockey, and I would say the manliest sport is rugby. The guys are huge and go non stop and scrums are exhausting, trust me
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Marinade [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Miz KillZone [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Marinade [/quote] Yes, but most "street fights" or better example school fights are the same in that sense. They know what they're getting themselves into and they've obviously agreed to fight. I do realize getting jumped/attacked is different however. I don't know I was always under the impression that fights are illegal no matter the circumstances, unless it's MMA or something revolved around fighting. I thought the fights in the NHL were real fights and not so much a part of the sport itself, am I wrong?[/quote] Where I live fights aren't considered illegal if both participants are willing. Fights are considered part of hockey by the NHL, so it is part of the game when playing at that level. If you were playing in some of the European leagues where they aren't considered part of the game then it would be different.[/quote] I don't think you're getting what "part of the game" means. Let's take basketball for example. In basketball, if you travel, you are penalized. Traveling happens from time to time and the ref blows his whistle and that person is penalized. Therefore traveling isn't a part of the game of basketball even though there is a rule against it. Now back to hockey. Yes, fighting happens in the game of hockey and always has happened and probably always will happen. That being said you're penalized for it, meaning you're not supposed to do it. Thus, it isn't a part of the game. The same way traveling happens in basketball, but it's not a part of the game. Point being, fighting in hockey shouldn't be a reason for the sport being "more manly" or better than another sport when it really isn't supposed to be a part of the game to begin with because there is a penalty against it. The mere fact that there is a penalty against fighting means its not a part of the game. It doesn't matter whether or not it's a part of the "culture" because there is still a penalty against it. [Edited on 01.05.2013 11:02 PM PST]
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football aka "soccer" is the best sport known to man or deidity
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Miz KillZone [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Marinade [/quote] Yes, but most "street fights" or better example school fights are the same in that sense. They know what they're getting themselves into and they've obviously agreed to fight. I do realize getting jumped/attacked is different however. I don't know I was always under the impression that fights are illegal no matter the circumstances, unless it's MMA or something revolved around fighting. I thought the fights in the NHL were real fights and not so much a part of the sport itself, am I wrong?[/quote] Where I live fights aren't considered illegal if both participants are willing. Fights are considered part of hockey by the NHL, so it is part of the game when playing at that level. If you were playing in some of the European leagues where they aren't considered part of the game then it would be different.
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Based on that criterion, boxing is clearly much manlier. Your thread is invalid and incredibly wrong.
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Doesn't change the fact it's a terrible sport.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Marinade [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] dahuterschuter [quote]If they wanted it gone because it actually wasn't, it would carry a suspension. Much like blindside headshots do.[/quote]But they don't want it gone. It sells tickets. This discussion was never about whether or not the NHL wanted it gone, it's clear they want it to stay.[/quote] So you admit that the NHL, which as you've already stated as one of the ruling bodies that therefore decides what is or is not part of the game, wants fighting to stay. Which means it is part of the Hockey when played in the NHL. Which is exactly what I've been saying. Thanks for agreeing with me.[/quote]Grasping at straws and moving goalposts general then? No. I refer you to the first part of my post (that you decided to exclude so you could just keep on arguing for some reason) to tell you why.
