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12/14/2012 12:35:40 AM
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Halo 4 and its problems
They have a game named Halo 4 with a very strong core and a very nice netcode.
Good Job!
But, there are blatantly idiotic things in this game that makes me wonder "Why did they do this?"
1. DMR - This 3x weapon zoom BREAKS literally every map. This weapon has "STANDOFF" written all over it. How can a utility weapon have such control of the map? Let's imagine a map such as Ragnarok..... I can cross map people from a safe location, and get POWER WEAPONS without even moving. Why would I even touch the BR if the weapon can not cross map? If you wanted the DMR to be a far ranged weapon, 343 should at least have the knowledge to lower the bullet magnetism
2. Random Ordnance Drops - Tell me, who the hell thought of making RODs. Their thinking of how this helps new players is extremely wrong. When a new player finds a weapon on the map, he expects it to be at the same spot the next time it spawns. Why the hell do weapon drops need to be random? What good does it do? What balance does it bring? The fact is, it brings negative value to the game
3. Maps - In Halo 4, there are literally 3 4v4 maps that work: Haven, Solace, and Abandon... 343 make a map pack saying they wanted to fill a big void in big maps? BIG MAPS? They shipped 6 huge maps, and only 4 4v4 maps. I understand they are coming out with a map pack with small maps, but it's too damn late now. At least add forge maps into 4v4 slayer playlists.
4. Playlist Management - How did 343 expect the several objective playlists to survive on its own? They already removed KoTH, and Oddball has less than 2K players.
5. Can not turn off Sprint/Instant Spawn - I am sure Bravo has forced 343 to work on this problem, but why was this not available off of launch? Instant Spawn does not "speed" up the game. It BREAKS the game? This is not CoD where people die in 1 second. This is Halo, where shields recharge slowly and encounters take 2-3 seconds.
6. Flinch - Why the hell can we not get unscoped when zoomed? Once again, this is not CoD where flinch works. This is HALO. HALO AND CoD ARE TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT GAMES. Flinch is extremely random and breaks the skill that comes in winning a battle from far range down two shots.
7. File Share - Why isn't File Share working? Halo 3 had a working file share system at launch..........in 2007
Now I understand that I should post this in 343's forums, but I'm banned permanently.
Add more problems that need to be addressed while this game has some life in it.
Also, if you like fair, balanced settings, MLG will be coming out with a playlist soon which may include the 4sk BR.
[Edited on 12.13.2012 4:43 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Effective Strafe Actually, I am IP banned from the Waypoint forums. [/quote] ipconfig /release restart pc
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Weapon fixes: DMR: Same KT. 6sk. Less scope zoom. Terr-bad at CQC. Carbine: 7sk. Slightly Faster KT than DMR. Bolt Shot: Decrease Charge shot range. Increase charge up time. Light Rifle Unscoped: More Auto Aim. Random ODs: Stahp. What be the point of this? Flinch Fix: You are unscoped when shot at except when Stability is on.
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Stop whining and enjoy the game, yes the flinch needs to be fixed. Boltshot could definitely use a big nerf and the Dmr is not really OP.... Halo 4 is a great game but yes I agree it needs some fixes. I enjoying a lot so far!
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Surely beginners would see the word "random" in "Random ordnance drop" and see that it won't be guaranteed to be in the same place next game ? It gives them a chance to get their hands on some power weapons every once in a while. As for the flinch thing, it's progressive, so successive shots will cause more significant flinch than single shots. Personally, I was always frustrated when I was just about to headshot a guy down range but was unscoped by an easy body-shot. Saying that Halo and CoD are two different games isn't really backing up what you're trying to say.
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what is the point of this, honestly? these are all opinions. sure it has its flaws, like anything else. c'mon, let's be real here. do you really expect to like every aspect of a game? probably not? now what? let's vent about it in hopes to... what? ... get 343 to cater to you? you don't really think anything is going to change, right?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AdmiredAcorn The DMR, BR, and Carbine have the exact same kill times firing as fast as the weapon allows. The BR's spread makes headshots easier and quicker if you pop the shield and hit the head in the same burst, but it a bit less accurate.[/quote] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyAEuku4ISY&list=UUirJe7eFxoaq8lkoIoFNt2g&index=3]um...[/url]
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This is what I don't agree with in Halo 4 Snipers can stay zoomed while getting shot. And then the Rogue spec keeps you from flingching when shot. WTF.....
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Effective Strafe [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Elixir Error Adrift works great for 4v4 imo Complex is pushing it[/quote] Why leave my base in Adrift? I can lock down two crucial areas by just staying in my base[/quote] You don't have to, still a good map for 4v4 tho imo. Also I miss having other weapons around the map, but I guess that kind of defeats the purpose of loadouts? Still, I'd like to see it.
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Actually, I am IP banned from the Waypoint forums.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Doorway of Truth [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Effective Strafe [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Doorway of Truth Go to Waypoint. [/quote] Don't tell me what to do if you can't read.[/quote] Don't insult my reading when you have awful grammar. You can't argue with Truth. [/quote] Actually, grammar isn't important on a forum, but reading comprehension is. Can you not decipher my words or do you need each word to be exact for your cerebellum to reason my words?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Lightning Yuna [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Effective Strafe [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Lightning Yuna I believe your exact words were, "Halo 4 plays like a charm," before. Why the change?[/quote] Stripped down it does. Stripped down Halo can only be achieved through modded gametypes however[/quote] In any case, make another Waypoint account and go there. Here your just repeating the same -blam!- without 343 not even looking at it. And get around to playing me sometime.[/quote] Well, I'm perma banned
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Effective Strafe [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Doorway of Truth Go to Waypoint. [/quote] Don't tell me what to do if you can't read.[/quote] Don't insult my reading when you have awful grammar. You can't argue with Truth. [Edited on 12.13.2012 4:51 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MrR46 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Effective Strafe [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MrR46 I'd rather play blue team Sword Base with AR starts than Solace.[/quote] Well if you are playing Blue Spawn Sword base, you can rush for sword and grab the DMR/Carbine or drop down for sniper Blue spawn rules[/quote] Wot? Red team gets sniper, GL, shotgun (beats the sword), more DMRs/NRs, and the high ground.[/quote] I always liked Blue Spawn better, but that's just maybe because I am very smart with the energy sword.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Effective Strafe [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Lightning Yuna I believe your exact words were, "Halo 4 plays like a charm," before. Why the change?[/quote] Stripped down it does. Stripped down Halo can only be achieved through modded gametypes however[/quote] In any case, make another Waypoint account and go there. Here your just repeating the same -blam!- without 343 not even looking at it. And get around to playing me sometime.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Elixir Error Adrift works great for 4v4 imo Complex is pushing it[/quote] Why leave my base in Adrift? I can lock down two crucial areas by just staying in my base
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Effective Strafe [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MrR46 I'd rather play blue team Sword Base with AR starts than Solace.[/quote] Well if you are playing Blue Spawn Sword base, you can rush for sword and grab the DMR/Carbine or drop down for sniper Blue spawn rules[/quote] Wot? Red team gets sniper, GL, shotgun (beats the sword), more DMRs/NRs, and the high ground.
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The DMR, BR, and Carbine have the exact same kill times firing as fast as the weapon allows. The BR's spread makes headshots easier and quicker if you pop the shield and hit the head in the same burst, but it a bit less accurate.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Effective Strafe [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MrR46 I guarantee MLG is going to bomb their settings. They're not talking about whether they should include vanilla garbage like ordnance, loadouts and AAs, they're talking about which ones to include. They're just like 343 in that they're going to flip the bird to their own audience in some misguided attempt to capture another, the casuals. By the way, this game's netcode is absolute trash. It's like playing on Halo PC at times. And Solace is one of the worst MP maps in the franchise.[/quote] Solace would be good if it wasn't for the DMR[/quote] HAHAHAAHAHAHAHOOHOHOOHOHHAHAHAHAHA! HAAAA! HAAAA! HAAA! HAAAAAAAA- *chokes to death*
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Adrift works great for 4v4 imo Complex is pushing it
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MrR46 I'd rather play blue team Sword Base with AR starts than Solace.[/quote] Well if you are playing Blue Spawn Sword base, you can rush for sword and grab the DMR/Carbine or drop down for sniper Blue spawn rules
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I'd rather play blue team Sword Base with AR starts than Solace.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MrR46 I guarantee MLG is going to bomb their settings. They're not talking about whether they should include vanilla garbage like ordnance, loadouts and AAs, they're talking about which ones to include. They're just like 343 in that they're going to flip the bird to their own audience in some misguided attempt to capture another, the casuals. By the way, this game's netcode is absolute trash. It's like playing on Halo PC at times. And Solace is one of the worst MP maps in the franchise.[/quote] Solace would be good if it wasn't for the DMR
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Lightning Yuna I believe your exact words were, "Halo 4 plays like a charm," before. Why the change?[/quote] Stripped down it does. Stripped down Halo can only be achieved through modded gametypes however
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OMG another Halo 4 thread. I'm sure it's not even your first about it's "problems" either. Seriously..
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1: I disagree highly. 2: I agree with you there. 3: I think all the maps are amazing. 4: They are probably going to update the playlists. 5: I agree this is a problem. 6: I don't mind flinch either way. 7: They are working on it. You need to stop complaining. What do you want us to do about it? [Edited on 12.13.2012 4:42 PM PST]
