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10/10/2012 11:45:08 PM
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What's with all these contests being "rigged"?
I have noticed that the past two contests have had some sort of drama. Can anyone actually confirm that people are rigging the votes?
I'm active in a few different groups on this site and to be honest I think a few people were mislead by a few posts. To be honest I don't feel as though it's wrong for someone to ask for votes in a private group, using alts or some other means though is wrong.
What does the community think about people asking for votes in private groups?
*Please do not single people out ITT.*
[Edited on 10.10.2012 3:56 PM PDT]
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Really guys? Don't drag private group drama bull-blam!- out here. Please. [Edited on 10.11.2012 12:51 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RighteousTyrant [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] chubbz [url=http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/who-gives-a-shit-harrison-ford.gif]>>mfw this thread[/url] Seriously, we all already knew that Ken trolled for votes in SV/FT.[/quote]Asking = trolling?[/quote][/quote] [quote]In a manner of speaking, I think so.[/quote] [quote]. . . because everyone has seen the screencaps where he does exactly what he says he doesn't do. We can now all just point at laugh at him when he goes on defending himself because we all know he's full of it. [/quote]I haven't been paying the most attention here, but I think Ken has only denied asking for alts to vote, not merely asking for votes (which would be patently foolish of him to deny for the reasons you state). <3[/quote] Except he was asking in SV/FT. We all know how that turns out, even if SK likes to pretend it doesn't. I was in TGP, I have an idea of what kind of crowd populates those groups. On top of that, even if he wasn't specifically asking for alts, he was asking members to vote a certain way, for no particular reason other than his own personal amusement. Ken often has no attachment to anyone/anything involved in the polls yet he tried to influence them. nope.jpg [Edited on 10.11.2012 12:42 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] chubbz [url=http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/who-gives-a-shit-harrison-ford.gif]>>mfw this thread[/url] Seriously, we all already knew that Ken trolled for votes in SV/FT.[/quote]Asking = trolling? [quote]. . . because everyone has seen the screencaps where he does exactly what he says he doesn't do. We can now all just point at laugh at him when he goes on defending himself because we all know he's full of it. [/quote]I haven't been paying the most attention here, but I think Ken has only denied asking for alts to vote, not merely asking for votes (which would be patently foolish of him to deny for the reasons you state). <3
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[url=http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/who-gives-a-shit-harrison-ford.gif]>>mfw this thread[/url] Seriously, we all already knew that Ken trolled for votes in SV/FT. He made his bed(or dug his grave, if you prefer) and he gets to sleep in it, because everyone has seen the screencaps where he does exactly what he says he doesn't do. We can now all just point at laugh at him when he goes on defending himself because we all know he's full of it. Fool me once, etc.
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@SKYDROME It wasn't my analogy, L2Read.
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Looks like Ken's returned from his "holiday" and things've kicked off already. But my few cents. I think that asking for the support of your group members, in good faith, is fine. ie. "Hey guys, I got into the final list for the poetry comp. Some support would be nice." But I think that, if not in good faith, such as directing or ordering them to do so, asking your group members for votes isn't great. ie. "Guys, go and vote for me. I need to win so go and vote for me guys." Making alts and voting for yourself is sad though.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CrazzySnipe55 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SKYDROME [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Xplode441 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SKYDROME lol I think this is all getting blown out of proportion. Telling people to vote for someone vs them actually doing it are different things, and I think there have been some misinterpretations.[/quote]Soliciting a crime and committing a crime are different things, but still crimes. What's your point?[/quote] This is the internet. No-one committed a crime, or did anything outside "the rules". What's your point?[/quote]It was clearly an analogy and one could argue that this activity goes against the "Play nice" rule.[/quote] Normally, people use analogies with the intent of simplifying another event. That's what you were trying to do, I pointed out your analogy was wrong, and now you can't support it. I still want to know what the point behind it was. Also, the play nice rule is entirely subjective. I don't know why it exists.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Xplode441 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SKYDROME lol I think this is all getting blown out of proportion. Telling people to vote for someone vs them actually doing it are different things, and I think there have been some misinterpretations.[/quote]Soliciting a crime and committing a crime are different things, but still crimes. What's your point?[/quote] It is a crime to ask people to vote for someone? I guess all the election people at my school trying to sign people up for voting for a certain candidate should be thrown in jail right?
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Well, I just read through the thread and lost quite a bit of respect for certain members. This thread reeks of immaturity about the subject at hand, defensive overreactions, people who simply don't care, and other things. While Sken may not be at fault here, it does seem like unfair play was involved. Do you know how often the Flood gets trolled with dummy accounts posting stuff? This is easily a spillage from that. [Edited on 10.11.2012 4:06 AM PDT]
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For -blam!- sake guys groups will most likely be removed if you don't cut this crap. Ken, you gotta stop asking for votes in groups. You have to learn in your little brain by now that it is an ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE idea. Everyone has to stop with this immaturity. [Edited on 10.11.2012 3:46 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SKYDROME [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Xplode441 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SKYDROME lol I think this is all getting blown out of proportion. Telling people to vote for someone vs them actually doing it are different things, and I think there have been some misinterpretations.[/quote]Soliciting a crime and committing a crime are different things, but still crimes. What's your point?[/quote] This is the internet. No-one committed a crime, or did anything outside "the rules". What's your point?[/quote]It was clearly an analogy and one could argue that this activity goes against the "Play nice" rule.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Xplode441 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SKYDROME lol I think this is all getting blown out of proportion. Telling people to vote for someone vs them actually doing it are different things, and I think there have been some misinterpretations.[/quote]Soliciting a crime and committing a crime are different things, but still crimes. What's your point?[/quote] This is the internet. No-one committed a crime, or did anything outside "the rules". What's your point?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SKYDROME lol I think this is all getting blown out of proportion. Telling people to vote for someone vs them actually doing it are different things, and I think there have been some misinterpretations.[/quote]Soliciting a crime and committing a crime are different things, but still crimes. What's your point?
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lol I think this is all getting blown out of proportion. Telling people to vote for someone vs them actually doing it are different things, and I think there have been some misinterpretations.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] random no337 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Grimaldus Using the privacy of groups to launch personal attacks should get the entire group purged in my opinion...as well as coordinating the -blam!- posted in the above quote.[/quote]To be fair they did tell him where to go, and irishfreak's poem was ahead from the start and likely would have won even if they did vote in his favour.[/quote]I'm just saying...
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Grimaldus Using the privacy of groups to launch personal attacks should get the entire group purged in my opinion...as well as coordinating the -blam!- posted in the above quote.[/quote]To be fair they did tell him where to go, and irishfreak's poem was ahead from the start and likely would have won even if they did vote in his favour.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] dmg04 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CrazzySnipe55 [url=http://gyazo.com/c04ef4680c8292df33edc897452721e7?1349755080]perspective 1[/url] [url=http://imageshack.us/a/img195/4544/kenk.png]perspective 2[/url] [url=http://imageshack.us/a/img839/8726/ken2j.png]additional post[/url][/quote]This crap seriously needs to stop. While ken was being an obvious tool, i don't understand why groups need to "war" like this. The whole Mythic vs ----- thing was a really lame joke. The thing with that, though, is that it all took place behind closed doors where we all just rolled with it like idiots. With this situation, it's people going out of there way to ruin [b]Community Contests Run By Bungie (DeeJ)[/b] I mean seriously, How big of an A-hole do you need to be to feel 'alright' with yourself when screwing something up for EVERYONE? I guess this is what trolling actually is. Think of the dude who's been living under a rock for 10 years, just joined this community, and attempted to do his first contest? That's a great welcome wagon right there. I get that it's just a T-shirt, and this is just a gaming internet forum, but Bungie is cool enough to literally hire a guy to interact with us and bridge the gap between Fan and Developer. Screwing with that bridge isn't something that should be done. Either Play Nice, Get Out, or Get Thrown Out. Cut the -blam!-.[/quote] Using the privacy of groups to launch personal attacks should get the entire group purged in my opinion...as well as coordinating the -blam!- posted in the above quote. I mean seriously...these things go from innocent talent contests to bloody popularity brawls damn quick. [Edited on 10.11.2012 2:58 AM PDT]
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I don't see anything wrong with asking your friends to support you, as it is simply bringing their attention to something. Asking or implying that you want them to get on alts and vote for you is wrong though, but you don't have any control over this if you explicitly state it's against your wishes. It's really easy to tell who is using alts though. [Edited on 10.11.2012 2:45 AM PDT]
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I vote that Skibur and Evilcam have the only votes that matter. Well I guess that renders my vote moot. This idea just got confusing. [Edited on 10.11.2012 1:00 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CrazzySnipe55 [url=http://gyazo.com/c04ef4680c8292df33edc897452721e7?1349755080]perspective 1[/url] [url=http://imageshack.us/a/img195/4544/kenk.png]perspective 2[/url] [url=http://imageshack.us/a/img839/8726/ken2j.png]additional post[/url][/quote]This crap seriously needs to stop. While ken was being an obvious tool, i don't understand why groups need to "war" like this. The whole Mythic vs ----- thing was a really lame joke. The thing with that, though, is that it all took place behind closed doors where we all just rolled with it like idiots. With this situation, it's people going out of there way to ruin [b]Community Contests Run By Bungie (DeeJ)[/b] I mean seriously, How big of an A-hole do you need to be to feel 'alright' with yourself when screwing something up for EVERYONE? I guess this is what trolling actually is. Think of the dude who's been living under a rock for 10 years, just joined this community, and attempted to do his first contest? That's a great welcome wagon right there. I get that it's just a T-shirt, and this is just a gaming internet forum, but Bungie is cool enough to literally hire a guy to interact with us and bridge the gap between Fan and Developer. Screwing with that bridge isn't something that should be done. Either Play Nice, Get Out, or Get Thrown Out. Cut the -blam!-. [Edited on 10.11.2012 12:54 AM PDT]
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I don't care but maybe it's because I have never taken part in the competition.. But seriously, can't we all just get along?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CrazzySnipe55 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ankerd123 Stop caring and get over it works too.[/quote]It's not about the shirt. Or the contest of it all. It's about ruining one of the fun things we have in the community right now.[/quote]I agree with this, as usual there is always one member that takes things too far and ruins it for the rest.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Verachi I think people that are messing up the polls should get the punishment of washing all the outside windows on the studio. Lure them in as a one of seven type of thing then strap them to Jerome and make them wash windows/perfect punishment. [quote][/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CrazzySnipe55 The most recent. [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=75193838]thread[/url] [url=http://gyazo.com/c04ef4680c8292df33edc897452721e7?1349755080]perspective 1[/url] [url=http://imageshack.us/a/img195/4544/kenk.png]perspective 2[/url] [url=http://imageshack.us/a/img839/8726/ken2j.png]additional post[/url][/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spartain ken 15 [/quote] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcqOgnQyXp4]You remind me of this kid (0:48).[/url][/quote] Lol."Its fun to do bad things." I think that kid could troll circles around SK.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BlackHeaven These contests are all for fun. The prize is a Bungie sweatshirt(correct?), no one is losing out if they don't win.[/quote]But...but you don't understand! That sweatshirt...it could mean life or death!
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I think people that are messing up the polls should get the punishment of washing all the outside windows on the studio. Lure them in as a one of seven type of thing then strap them to Jerome and make them wash windows/perfect punishment. [quote][/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CrazzySnipe55 The most recent. [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=75193838]thread[/url] [url=http://gyazo.com/c04ef4680c8292df33edc897452721e7?1349755080]perspective 1[/url] [url=http://imageshack.us/a/img195/4544/kenk.png]perspective 2[/url] [url=http://imageshack.us/a/img839/8726/ken2j.png]additional post[/url][/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spartain ken 15 [/quote] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcqOgnQyXp4]You remind me of this kid (0:48).[/url] [Edited on 10.10.2012 9:26 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Anti Gov420 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CrazzySnipe55 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Anti Gov420 *Please do not single people out ITT.*[/quote]How?[/quote]not sure if serious It's obvious that you have a problem with someone but I don't want to discuss that. I want to discuss the tactics of said person and would like a better understanding of what the community deems acceptable. If you can't take part in that type of discussion I suggest you try finding another thread.[/quote]Everything that's happened with this so far is entirely because of that person. Considering we're allowed to make threads about specific users now, I don't see why the mods and people are so uptight about talking about people (especially when they deserve it).
