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5/21/2012 11:55:21 PM
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Bungie/Activisions Next Game Revealed: Well, that just happened...
So basically, Bungie/Activision's new game codenamed 'Destiny' was [i]"made public for the first time as part of a separate lawsuit involving the Call of Duty game franchise."[/i] This is obviously big news.
Bungie's word (News article): [url=http://www.bungie.net/News/Blog.aspx?mode=news#cid32112]"Well, that just happened..."[/url] [quote][i]So, yeah. While we're not ready to show you what we've been working on, we can reconfirm that we are hard at work on our new universe. We can't wait for you to see it.
See you starside in 2013.[/i][/quote]
[b]Summary of what we 'know' so far...[/b]
-Massively multiplayer style, sci-fantasy action shooter series codenamed Destiny with expansion packs codenamed Comet.
-Four games which are targeting for a 2013, 2015, 2017 and 2019 release.
-Four expansion packs which are targeting for a 2014, 2016, 2018 and 2020 release.
-There will be other DLC, subscriptions, microtransactions, and value added services.
-The first game will be an Xbox 360 and "Xbox 720" timed exclusive.
-Bungie is also working on a Marathon game, but currently no more than 5% of their staff (nor more than 5% of their key staff) can work on it.
-The second game is targeted for 360, 720, PS4, and Windows PC, though the contract notes that some of those SKUs may be dropped if they decide they are not worthwhile or not technically feasible.
-Activision can terminate the contract without penalty if Destiny doesn't sell at least 5 million units in the first six months.
- The main games will be retail.
-At maximum, 7 Bungie employees and 10 contractors are allowed to work on Bungie.net.
-The game is targeting a rating of Teen/PEGI 16. Nonetheless, Bungie doesn't have to (by the contact) hit this target.
[url=http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-bungie-activision-contract-20120521,0,3463781.story]LA Times wrote an article[/url] about the contract between Bungie and there next game, code name 'Destiny'. This could possibly be some info about the next IP. Pretty interesting.
[url=http://documents.latimes.com/bungie-activision-contract/]Here's the contract that they refer to in the article.[/url]
For those who are too lazy to read the contract.
[url=http://www.abload.de/img/destiny0tumo.png]Product[/url]
[url=http://www.abload.de/img/destiny2eruax.png]Release Plan[/url]
Most interesting part of the whole article in my opinion.
[quote][i]The 27-page agreement calls for Bungie to develop four "sci-fantasy, action shooter games," code-named "Destiny," released every other year, beginning in the fall of 2013. Bungie also agreed to put out four downloadable expansion packs code-named "Comet," every other year beginning in the fall of 2014. Activision has never disclosed release plans for Bungie's titles.[/i][/quote]
Also interesting.
[quote][i]The first Destiny game will initially only be available on Microsoft's Xbox 360 consoles, as well as its potential successor, which the contract refers to as the "Xbox 720." Later games would be made for Xbox consoles as well as Sony Corp.'s expected successor to the PlayStation 3, and on personal computers.[/i][/quote]
[Edited on 05.21.2012 10:55 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] talon2000 I'm not using this thread to discuss games with you. If you want to do that PM me, more then happy to talk games. All I was saying was Bungie is more then capable (like other studios) to develop quality content every two years. From our understanding they have a team that is well equipped to do it. [/quote] And I am basically proving to you that they aren't. On top of that, you were the one who brought those games into the discussion, loving the backtracking. No studio has ever done this correctly because it's borderline impossible. Not even Valve can do it, it took them 3-4 years for Episode 1 and 2, and 1 was short as hell compared to HL2 and Ep2. And you are saying Bungie, who killed their own franchise by introducing CoD like elements into their games, can accomplish this? Btw, Valve has more Employees than Bungie and doesn't run their own franchise's into the dirt. I think I've said enough, I'll let you Bungiedrones think what you want, but when you guys go through the same thing Biodrones did, I'll be laughing endlessly. Oh, and one last tid bit, Reach has sold about 5 million units to date, and it has been out for almost 2 years. Good luck, Bungie. You'll -blam!- need it.
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Glad I was wrong about the time frame for the new game. This is exciting, can't wait till Bungie Day.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] talon2000 They haven't said its an MMO, the contract says 'Massive mulitplayer style game'. Could be a single player game with MMO elements. You know what I mean?[/quote] Wow... Didn't notice that before. Pretty interesting.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Niko Jims [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Niko Jims Umm, what? Fallout 3 and NV are made by two different companies, and Fallout 2 came out in 1998. Oblivion and Skyrim are 5 years apart. And yes, Fallout 3 and Skyrim are -blam!- (NV is good, but that's because Obsidian Entertainment made it), but I wouldn't expect someone who doesn't even know how far apart a series' games are developed but still uses it as an argument to know so.[/quote]How do you know Bungie doesn't have two teams (the size of a small studio) working on the second title right now? Bungie is a big company. They had a team working on ODST while developing Reach and they've grow a lot since 08. If you think Fallout 3 and Skyrim are bad, you have a very high standard and unique taste in games which differs from the majority's. [/quote] And ODST was a small project. Think? I know, I played both for countless of hours. Fallout 3 was buggy, lacked quests, and the story line and writing was just plain boring and linear in comparison to NV, which had great writing and a great atmosphere, as well as a -blam!- ton of more quests. Skyrim...if you think Skyrim is good, you know nothing about RPG's. Also, that 'majority' is what we call casuals, aka, people who will buy a game and be interested in it because it's dumbed down for them. Just like Minecraft. Don't tell me you think Minecraft is a good game.[/quote]I'm not using this thread to discuss games with you. If you want to do that PM me, more then happy to talk games. All I was saying was Bungie is more then capable (like other studios) to develop quality content every two years. From our understanding they have a team that is well equipped to do it.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Niko Jims Umm, what? Fallout 3 and NV are made by two different companies, and Fallout 2 came out in 1998. Oblivion and Skyrim are 5 years apart. And yes, Fallout 3 and Skyrim are -blam!- (NV is good, but that's because Obsidian Entertainment made it), but I wouldn't expect someone who doesn't even know how far apart a series' games are developed but still uses it as an argument to know so.[/quote]How do you know Bungie doesn't have two teams (the size of a small studio) working on the second title right now? Bungie is a big company. They had a team working on ODST while developing Reach and they've grow a lot since 08. If you think Fallout 3 and Skyrim are bad, you have a very high standard and unique taste in games which differs from the majority's. [/quote] And ODST was a small project. Think? I know, I played both for countless of hours. Fallout 3 was buggy, lacked quests, and the story line and writing was just plain boring and linear in comparison to NV, which had great writing and a great atmosphere, as well as a -blam!- ton of more quests. Skyrim...if you think Skyrim is good, you know nothing about RPG's. Also, that 'majority' is what we call casuals, aka, people who will buy a game and be interested in it because it's dumbed down for them. Just like Minecraft. Don't tell me you think Minecraft is a good game.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dr Syx [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] talon2000 It's also how games like Fallout and the Elder Scrolls series are developed. [/quote]Woah, hold on... The Elder Scrolls games are not fully developed over just 2 years. Also, here's my major concern: How are you going to pump out an MMO every two years? To me, an MMO is supposed to keep you interested for at least twice that amount of time. It seems odd to me that they would do it like this... Maybe the different games will take place in different areas of the universe?[/quote]Sorry, I mean how Elder Scrolls and Fallout distribute major DLC to support their game while they the majority of the team work on the next game. They haven't said its an MMO, the contract says 'Massive mulitplayer style game'. Could be a single player game with MMO elements. You know what I mean? [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Niko Jims Umm, what? Fallout 3 and NV are made by two different companies, and Fallout 2 came out in 1998. Oblivion and Skyrim are 5 years apart. And yes, Fallout 3 and Skyrim are -blam!- (NV is good, but that's because Obsidian Entertainment made it), but I wouldn't expect someone who doesn't even know how far apart a series' games are developed but still uses it as an argument to know so.[/quote]How do you know Bungie doesn't have two teams (the size of a small studio) working on the second title right now? Bungie is a big company. They had a team working on ODST while developing Reach and they've grow a lot since 08. If you think Fallout 3 and Skyrim are bad, you have a very high standard and unique taste in games which differs from the majority's. And from Elder Scrolls IV (2006), Fallout 3 (2008), Fallout New Vegas (2010), Elder Scrolls V (2011). (I know the NV was made by a different studio but see above for my argument against that.) [Edited on 05.22.2012 10:48 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] talon2000 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Niko Jims [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hylebos [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Niko Jims [quote]-Massively multiplayer style, sci-fantasy action shooter series codenamed Destiny with expansion packs codenamed Comet. -Four games which are targeting for a 2013, 2015, 2017 and 2019 release. -Four expansion packs which are targeting for a 2014, 2016, 2018 and 2020 release. -There will be other DLC, subscriptions, microtransactions, and value added services.[/quote] Look how far Bungie has fallen. So much for not going the CoD way.[/quote]Lol. No.[/quote] >It's exactly how CoD is developed >HURR NO IT ISN'T Good argument. You do know that each CoD game is developed for about 2 years, right? Each game has DLC in between that. CoD now has Elite, which has the option to pay for specific services. Done being stupid now, or are you actually going to form a logical argument?[/quote]You don't have to insult people. It doesn't help your argument. It's also how games like Fallout and the Elder Scrolls series are developed. Do you have a problem with them too? If it's an massive multiplayer style game, it might be the perfect formula. [/quote] If anything, he was insulting me by posting some short dumb phrase, but whatever you say. Umm, what? Fallout 3 and NV are made by two different companies, and Fallout 2 came out in 1998. Oblivion and Skyrim are 5 years apart. And yes, Fallout 3 and Skyrim are -blam!- (NV is good, but that's because Obsidian Entertainment made it), but I wouldn't expect someone who doesn't even know how far apart a series' games are developed but still uses it as an argument to know so.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] talon2000 It's also how games like Fallout and the Elder Scrolls series are developed. [/quote]Woah, hold on... The Elder Scrolls games are not fully developed over just 2 years. For Skyrim specifically, from the time they started coding the game, it took 3 years. That's not including planning the game out. Before that they were working out ideas for it since Oblivion so that would be 5 years. Also, here's my major concern: How are you going to pump out an MMO every two years? To me, an MMO is supposed to keep you interested for at least twice that amount of time. It seems odd to me that they would do it like this... Maybe the different games will take place in different areas of the universe? [Edited on 05.22.2012 10:39 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Niko Jims [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hylebos [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Niko Jims [quote]-Massively multiplayer style, sci-fantasy action shooter series codenamed Destiny with expansion packs codenamed Comet. -Four games which are targeting for a 2013, 2015, 2017 and 2019 release. -Four expansion packs which are targeting for a 2014, 2016, 2018 and 2020 release. -There will be other DLC, subscriptions, microtransactions, and value added services.[/quote] Look how far Bungie has fallen. So much for not going the CoD way.[/quote]Lol. No.[/quote] >It's exactly how CoD is developed >HURR NO IT ISN'T Good argument. You do know that each CoD game is developed for about 2 years, right? Each game has DLC in between that. CoD now has Elite, which has the option to pay for specific services. Done being stupid now, or are you actually going to form a logical argument?[/quote]You don't have to insult people. It doesn't help your argument. It's also how games like Fallout and the Elder Scrolls series are developed. Do you have a problem with them too? If it's an massive multiplayer style game, it might be the perfect formula. [Edited on 05.22.2012 10:24 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hylebos [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Niko Jims [quote]-Massively multiplayer style, sci-fantasy action shooter series codenamed Destiny with expansion packs codenamed Comet. -Four games which are targeting for a 2013, 2015, 2017 and 2019 release. -Four expansion packs which are targeting for a 2014, 2016, 2018 and 2020 release. -There will be other DLC, subscriptions, microtransactions, and value added services.[/quote] Look how far Bungie has fallen. So much for not going the CoD way.[/quote]Lol. No.[/quote] >It's exactly how CoD is developed >HURR NO IT ISN'T Good argument. You do know that each CoD game is developed for about 2 years, right? Each game has DLC in between that. CoD now has Elite, which has the option to pay for specific services. Done being stupid now, or are you actually going to form a logical argument? [Edited on 05.22.2012 10:10 PM PDT]
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This sucks... why do people have to leak -blam!-... and once more... I thought it was fake because of the exclusive to Xbox 360 thing just seemed... not right. Not correct. But now that i see that Bungie has basically confirmed it's real... This really sucks... who ever is the dick who leaked it should be sued until they are bankrupted, they don't deserve anything in life.
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Not sure why people are upset about a T rating. Most MMOs are rated T. Bungie is under no obligation to meet this rating though.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Niko Jims [quote]-Massively multiplayer style, sci-fantasy action shooter series codenamed Destiny with expansion packs codenamed Comet. -Four games which are targeting for a 2013, 2015, 2017 and 2019 release. -Four expansion packs which are targeting for a 2014, 2016, 2018 and 2020 release. -There will be other DLC, subscriptions, microtransactions, and value added services.[/quote] Look how far Bungie has fallen. So much for not going the CoD way.[/quote]Lol. No.
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[quote]-Massively multiplayer style, sci-fantasy action shooter series codenamed Destiny with expansion packs codenamed Comet. -Four games which are targeting for a 2013, 2015, 2017 and 2019 release. -Four expansion packs which are targeting for a 2014, 2016, 2018 and 2020 release. -There will be other DLC, subscriptions, microtransactions, and value added services.[/quote] Look how far Bungie has fallen. So much for not going the CoD way.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sneaky Kong WoW[/quote]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] gruntyII7 T FOR TODDLER?! [url=http://nooooooooooooooo.com/]NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!![/url][/quote] It's rating is irrelevant. Oh, wait! I forgot the only way a game can be good is if it's rated M.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] T21095 This is all really cool, but to me, the coolest part is about the Xbox 720. I mean, Microsoft probably never thought that their console would be leaked this soon. At least now we know when to expect it. Still, I hope they change the name. 720 is just bleh.[/quote]I'm fairly certain it's a codename for the up and coming system. I doubt anybody at Acti is allowed to release the name even in a contract due to a signed NDA.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] T21095 This is all really cool, but to me, the coolest part is about the Xbox 720. I mean, Microsoft probably never thought that their console would be leaked this soon. At least now we know when to expect it. Still, I hope they change the name. 720 is just bleh.[/quote] I would assume that it is a codename, so I doubt you'll have to worry.
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This is all really cool, but to me, the coolest part is about the Xbox 720. I mean, Microsoft probably never thought that their console would be leaked this soon. At least now we know when to expect it. Still, I hope they change the name. 720 is just bleh.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] some1 with guns [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Al1757XNA [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] some1 with guns You know whats kind of funny? This post has almost 600 comments in just under 24 hours. If Bungie had told us EXACTLY what OP said, we probably would be less interested than we are. BTW, did it say anything about why CoD is involved in the suit? [/quote] CODs involved because activison was forced to give up the bungie documents due to a ongoing legal battle with the creators of COD.[/quote] This - there were arguments between Infinity Ward and Activision over royalties paid with MW2. Apparently Activision didnt pay them the bonuses they were due (which is why half of them left to make a new team 'Respawn Entertainment') There's a number of reasons why the contract between Bungie and Activision would be important in a case like this. [Edited on 05.22.2012 8:47 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Al1757XNA [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] some1 with guns You know whats kind of funny? This post has almost 600 comments in just under 24 hours. If Bungie had told us EXACTLY what OP said, we probably would be less interested than we are. BTW, did it say anything about why CoD is involved in the suit? [/quote] CODs involved because activison was forced to give up the bungie documents due to a ongoing legal battle with the creators of COD.[/quote] Ok... Thanks bro.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] some1 with guns You know whats kind of funny? This post has almost 600 comments in just under 24 hours. If Bungie had told us EXACTLY what OP said, we probably would be less interested than we are. BTW, did it say anything about why CoD is involved in the suit? [/quote] CODs involved because activison was forced to give up the bungie documents due to a ongoing legal battle with the creators of COD.
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Damn, that's ambitious. Also, how dare Bungie news break while I'm on vacation?
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I bet E3 is gonna have a teaser.
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Right with ya on that one, Grunty. It's a shame their next game is going to be rated Teen. [Edited on 05.22.2012 7:22 PM PDT]
