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Edited by Squall Knight:
12/29/2015 6:47:42 AM
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AIM ASSIST IS THE NEW META + MORE
At the moment the meta for this game happens to consist of high aim assist snipers(1000 yard stare), the MIDA-multitool(high aim assist), and weapons that have upgrades that generally increase stat values outside of its first upgrade tree.
Suggestions:
[u]Sniper Rifles[/u]
-Increased stow times
[u]MIDA-Multitool[/u]
-Slightly decrease aim assist to 82
[spoiler]That is the second highest aim assist scout rifle. The Mida currently stands at 90 Aim assist.[/spoiler]
[u]Auto rifles[/u]
-Increase stability
(For consistency in close to mid ranges)
[spoiler]Relative to the autorifle archetype. Higher stability buff to high impact/Low rof auto rifles. A player should seldomly have to worry about hitting auto rifle shots from close to medium ranges.[/spoiler]
-Slightly decreased accuracy
(For less consistency past mid ranges)
[u]Fusion rifles[/u]
-Restore previous numbers
[spoiler]Nobody EVER asked bungie to change these. Their stats need to hold solid as they were after they slightly tweaked the cone.[/spoiler]
[u]Heavy machine guns[/u]
Most heavy machine guns have no problems performing from longer distances. The differences between each heavy machine gun is not enough to choose choose one over something with high stability and impact.
-Decrease range values
[u]Consistent upgrades[/u]
[u]Rangefinder[/u] ruins shotgun balance.
Range finder, Hidden hand, headseeker, and other upgrades that give actively consistent buffs should not be given as random rolls on any weapons. They increase weapon stat values without correct compensation within an upgrade path. They should be upgrades that are predetermined on specific weapons, that way their stats can be balanced fairly. Otherwise everyone will only build weapons to push stats.
This can be done on weapons that are dropped within certain public event, and in raids. Giving players more incentive to look for these weapons. [spoiler]An example would be the Found Verdict, the gun drops with the same rolls and was highly sought after. Not to say that would be the only rolls, but they would be the kind you normally dont get or see.[/spoiler]
[u]Truth[/u]
-Remove tripod
[spoiler]The truth is an accurate weapon. When aimed correctly the kill is certain. With no need to reload after every 2 rockets the amount of time it takes to get a kill can easily out do any other rocket/Heavy weapon. This can be seen most specifically in Trials of Osiris.[/spoiler]
[u]Dragon's Breath[/u]
-Switch Trigger release to trigger press
-Add burn damage
-Increase reload time
All exotic heavy weapons, including rocket launchers should by default automatically spawn with slightly larger amounts of heavy ammo. Every rocket launcher should have 3 rockets, as they do take up an exotic slot.
This is also a discussion on how to improve the gun balance in the game as well as their mechanics. Whats above are just my personal ideas. Comment below if you have anything solid to conrtibute or build off of. Otherwise [b]do not comment[/b].
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8 Replies*yawn* another person that doesn't understand how aim assist works and wants to cry over it.
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2 RepliesAll I see on the forums is "aim assist this, aim assist that", and I'm thinking, "What about special ammo? What about map design? What about playing smarter? What about that completely unnecessary shotgun nerf?".
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4 RepliesYes you're right aim assistance puts the reticle on the head & pulls the trigger for you. Bullets shoot through walls & curve around corners. This is why you & every other shotgun primary user can just pick up a sniper & have a 100% headshot ratio. Must be why everyone gets headshot quadfeeds with snipers every game. Every time you pull the trigger you get a head shot, even when hip-firing. Yeah aim assistance is really op, must be why mida is so ridiculously op anyone who uses it wins the game. It's not like there are guns with faster ttk's or anything. [spoiler]kek[/spoiler]
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[quote] [u]Truth[/u] [b]-Remove tripod[/b] Deadly accurate weapon that has no need to reload for that 3rd shot. The DPS is too high. Shooting 3 tracking missiles in a row with proximity at different targets in most situations leads to 3 straight kills. [u]Dragon's Breath[/u] -Switch Trigger release to trigger press -Add burn damage All exotic heavy weapons, including rocket launchers should by default automatically spawn with slightly larger amounts of heavy ammo. [b]Every rocket launcher should have 3 rockets, as they do take up an exotic slot.[/b] [/quote] Wow, I can tell you really thought this one through.
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While you're at it. Every gun now shoots kittens unless you are playing a hunter
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1 Reply-blam!- no. Just no.
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can we at least go for a couple weeks before you start asking for changes? It kind of makes you look like you'll never be satisfied.
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1 ReplyHonestly, I don't feel that any of the above that you have mentioned need a change. If anything were to possibly happen, maybe a very slight damage boost to Auto Rifles and a very slight reduction in aim assist to snipers. As of right now, shotguns actually feel, and this is gonna sound weird but, balanced, and Mida is perfect: it's a good all around weapon, and it does take skill to use
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1 ReplyDude your balancing ideas are pathetic plz stfu
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1 ReplyYou're a douche
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1 ReplyAnother person that has absolutely no clue what they are talking about, oh joy
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Pass.
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Can we just go a weak without someone crying for a nerf?
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I like turtles
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I still think aa is overrated
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7 RepliesThere is nothing wrong with any of the weapons stop trying to get them a nerf. The mida is the most balanced gun ever.
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1 ReplyEdited by Toast Muncher: 12/14/2015 7:47:15 AMGet rid of tripod? Truth isn't that bad; stop crying. Also bring aim assist to year one snipers? Really? You know what was a year one sniper, prudence II and that has 74 aim assist.
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1 ReplyMachine guns are crazy strong especially since they get enough ammo to kill the whole enemy team 2-3 times over
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1 ReplyThere will always be a new meta for anything.
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1 ReplyEdited by pwningall: 12/14/2015 11:32:14 AMNo to everything. This is one of the moist balanced meta games that destiny has ever had. So far I haven't found anything that is superior to another weapon class.
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3 RepliesMida has no aim assist. Your idea sucks
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1 ReplyLeave the forums. Horrible ideas
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1 ReplyThe LDR had more AA than the 1000yrd stare has now. Go away
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