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11/30/2015 10:02:40 PM
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Updated Chart: PvP Performance by Light

As requested here's an updated version of the chart Deej shared in last week's Bungie Weekly Update with comparison data for other game modes. To be clear, no one's claiming Light is the only factor in PvP success, or that PvP success is measured purely by K/D. (Or so I keep telling myself every time I play my Defender Titan...) We're also not claiming correlation equals causation, just sharing some data we thought was cool. :)
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  • Edited by TRDoug: 12/1/2015 12:39:08 PM
    You should post a chart of LAG and latency statistics because your cheap p2p non dedicated server philosophy is the biggest pile of trash since then floating garbage island that was discovered in the ocean. THAT is the biggest enemy in PvP You took 500 million off our dollars before the game was even released, how much more have we thrown at you since? You can't takes FRACTION of that money and let us enjoy dedicated servers? You're welcome!

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    • Who ever asked for this? How about some real questions. What's the win percentage of red bars vs green bars? Where are dedicated servers? Where's private matches? Who's the idiot that decided to nerf weapon parts when players averaged 26.6 parts per account?

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      • It's unwise to grind PvE for the few points of light at the end, therefore only the unwise reached max level, and being unwise they performed worse at PvP. That's my explanation of the dip.

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      • Neat data! People who play the game a lot also tend to be better! NO WAY!

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        • This chart is pointless. So many other variables.

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          • Id say the biggest factor in pvp, and destiny in general is that it's a complete steaming pile of shite.

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            • Edited by StupidSlinky: 12/1/2015 6:03:37 PM
              So if I apply for a job at bumgee... How long before I can expect to get paid the big bucks for drawing colorful lines in mspaint and calling it "stats" Look I did one for you As you can clearly see.... these stats mean absolutely nothing

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              • It has nothing to do with light... What weapons were equipped? Duh...they were ALL the same. Pulse rifles.

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                • The only thing I'm taking from this is that a higher light equals higher K/D? Doesn't seem right

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                  • Sorry but since higher light usually mean higher experience the statistics aren't reliable at all. If anything I would say that the higher light should be even higher on there. And the Higher KD in Trails doesn't mean a thing since the teams are premade instead of matchmaking. And when you add in higher light/experience + Premade team + probably PVP focus then all of a sudden the statistic is just pointless. What you should look at is the Latency/KD/Win instead. And look over the problems in pvp with getting kicked. Like getting a loss when it is actually the server dropping you. I understand that leaving/pulling the plugg should result in a loss. But when the communication with destiny servers is interupter and it is not User error that is a huge problem. And how hard could it be to make the server simply add a delay equal to the delay of the person playing. Lets say he has 10 ping down but 200 up. The server should then make the response time slower so that it is 200ping up and down. This eliminates the benefit of lagswitching for example or the "Stream game play" abuse.

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                  • Edited by Sgt Dippinbud: 12/1/2015 8:18:58 PM
                    How did you calculate your running average? Is it center weighted? How large of a light level does the smoothing span? (Trying to understand the peaks at 310)

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                    • Fascinating

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                    • The only reason it's going up is because people are just getting higher ranks. Thanks though bungie

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                    • Crazy how the clash and iron banner clash modes have the same kd at high light rankings.

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                      • I love this chart because it's making so many people angry. Who knew a little innocuous chart could make people cry so much?

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                        • When will the December update come?

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                          • Nice

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                          • So this is what a blackbelt six sigma trained bungie employee has learned to do?. If you don't understand my sentence google it. Dont have time to explain corporate nonsense to you all. Oh and you forgot the pot of gold at the end)

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                          • Bad graph is bad. I can make a graph to try to push any agenda. I'll make one to show a perfect correlation between the rise in autism with organic food sales.

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                            • As a small business manager if you had shown me this with your caveats I would have assumed that you were a) Under utilising your time b) Hiding your true message behind waffle c) Expecting to look for another source of income in the near future. I can't say that by offering meaningless updates such as this demonstrates that you are listening to your community because the level of customer service you are providing is, at best, salty. Your endeavours would be better rewarded if you addressed the concerns of the community with honesty, integrity and with a high degree of humility. What you have set out to do vis a vis being open and communicative with your product's development is laudable it is also dangerously naive to think that you can treat everyone as a 'friend' who shares the same humour as yourself. It would be much wiser to treat us as investors who have the right to know what our hard earned money is actually being spent on. To this end..... keep your updates plain and simple and keep the content relevant.

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                              • Two questions. Who requested these meaningless stats? Also, I would like to know. When is the December Update? 1st, 8th, 15th, 22nd, 29th. Prolly the 15th.

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                                • Meh

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                                • This could also be heavily attributed to the fact that higher light players play the game more and have done the hardest PVE content in the game. Translating into gun skill in PVP. This graph is more of an indication of those who play the game more than light having anything to do with it at least outside of level advantage enabled modes. Which by the way are a farce in Trials 300 should never beat a 317. level advantages need to be that level advantages. Currently they are not. Fix your RNG and then you can enable true advantages because RNG has to much say in that.

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                                  • This is bs.. I was under 300 and always went positive

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                                    • Edited by FRAKTICA: 6/13/2020 11:57:43 PM
                                      Just be honest with us and yourselves!

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                                    • But people run trials with year one weapons and go flawless so your graph is pointless

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