Well firstly the worm gods aren't wyrms. How? Akka in one of the pages of the books of sorrow inquires for many to look at his coiled body, and wings [b][u]WINGS[/u][/b] wyrms are dragons yes, however they are dragons without wings Also, from the numerous of remnants we warlock and some hunters have collected show that ahamkara were vertebrates in their past dragon form. So if it turns out the worm gods aren't wyrms, then their is no correlation. Secondly (the biggest part actually) they are not from the same origination. The worm gods come from the deep (darkness). The ahamkara however come from the void "For if the void is darkness, then why have we not perished? For the void encompasses all. Every pocket dimension, every Sol system, every dimension, every plane of reality, every universe, multi verse, and etc. The darkness then could easily locate and extinguish our threat. So why have we not been snuffed out? The answer is simple; the void is light" - Ulan-tan Ulan-tan was a legendary voidwalker who plausibly knew more about light, darkness, & void energy especially than any other. So no, I don't fathom worms are ahamkara not the same. However it is possible that they have some connection. The ahamkara are capable of changing their form. Perhaps the worms are an older iteration of ahamkara. Maybe one of them infects the others. Or perhaps one of them are a more omnipotent version of the other

A lot of people on here would agree. My personal opinion is that they are not. There are definite links between the two, oh bearer of mine, and even the description in the book of sorrows of the worms is...Wyrm like. My fundamental problem with the worms = ahamkara theory is....we already fought the ahamkara to extinction, lots of them. Now, I can believe that the ahamkara are not actually extinct, but if ahamkara = worms, that creates some problems. How many worm gods are there? We killed a lot of ahamkara. I mean, are worm gods common? If the ahamkara are worm gods, why is Toland and the rest of the guardians so confused as to the nature of the worms? How would it be after all that time, we wouldn't know what the worm gods are? My belief is that the worms tried to infect many, many species (says so in the book of sorrows). I believe the ahamkara are just another species infected by the worm parasite, like the hive.