[quote]I think that the biblical version of jesus isnt an accurate picture there are a few discrepancies which I would like to see a discussion on[/quote] Sort of true [quote]1. I doubt jesus was white, he was born in the middle east to native parents long before europeans had any business over there. He was most likely brown skinned or black[/quote] He was definitely not white. More of a darker skin and black hair, but not black. Jews aren't black. [quote]2. I doubt his name was jesus as im pretty sure thats a spanish name and its pronounced hey soos. I think thats his european name the church gave him. He probably had an arabic or jewish name[/quote] Jesus was another way to say his real name given by his parents. His parents named him Yeshua, and Jesus is another way to say Yeshua. He was called Emmanuel by the people because he fulfilled some prophecies. [quote]3. I think mary died in childbirth and wasnt really called mary she was an unimportant peasants wife. The bible just named her mary to westernise the family so their kingdoms could relate[/quote] Well this isn't correct. Mary was his mother that lived for a long time. She was 14 when she became pregnant, and no one knows why if you take out the divinity. And, the name today Mary came from her. Mary is a biblical name, like Matthew and John and David. [quote]4. Jesus was raised a jew. Not a christian and imo he did not feed the thousand or whatever it is all rumours made up *after* his death following the political scandal of his execution for preaching heretical topics.[/quote] He was raised a Jew. His followers are called Christians. And, the "made up rumors" is a shaky topic. The religious leaders didn't want anything about him told to be correct, like that when his body disappeared from the tomb, that the disciples broke in and took the body. But the disciples were the only eye witnesses to all of his stuff. So it's up to you to believe. [quote]5. I think jesus was just a preacher, nobody special but its my opinion his death timed nicely with a religious political push so they used him as a matyr. The stories about him probably started as a kind man passing food to starving families then escalating like chinese whispers in his death[/quote] His stories were recorded by some of the disciples. And his death was timed perfectly. He also fulfilled some of Isaiah's prophecies. [quote]6. His ressurection was probably a sect of his followers using his son as an idol.[/quote] Jesus never had children... [quote]7. Seeing as the calender did not yet include all of the months we know today I doubt jesus was actually born in December. It was probably september but he was only recorded on census months after his birth[/quote] Now this is true. He was born in what would have been October. December 25th itself is a pagan holiday, but Jesus' birth is celebrated on that day for some reason (maybe them stupid dark age Catholics)