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Edited by Killlerschaf: 12/10/2015 8:14:48 PM
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The grind is too real, the content too unreal and Bungie's communication surreal.

Traditionally I would write a pretty long wall of text and explain exactly what I mean. However, this time I feel that the title can fully stand for itself and that there should be a certain consensus on what I mean. Edit: The number of likes I have gotten for this very simple, yet precise thread is actually pretty astonishing. Thanks for the support! Keep the likes and comments going :D Double Edit: In the recent events of the patch changes, how the numbers got edited and "everything is working as intended" (even though the numbers given don't make any sense. Who buffs for 0.04%? People actually get paid to think of, and implement such changes?), this thread has never been more true.

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  • Edited by hiltonkush: 5/26/2016 2:07:28 PM
    Wait, they did it again? I don't know if you were there for year one, but they said they buffed auto rifles, it was supposed to be by 7%, and then they only buffed it for 0.07% (if memory serves, the numbers could be different) and then said it was a typo. They did it again? Seriously? They lie, over and over again, and people still play this garbage, dear lord. It's funny too, because people tested it, and the 0.07% change did absolutely nothing to the damage of the AR's. So I can imagine that a 0.04% buff would do less lol.

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  • Edited by Killlerschaf: 12/10/2015 8:10:13 PM
    Well, I think this thread needs a little bump once again, given the perfect and very spot on communication from Bungie considering the patch notes for once! I'll have a pro tip: We all know that something has been wrong with this patch (reminds me of Iron Banner drop rates and how everything was working as intended. Or the Vex nerfs. Nice nerf on the Sleeper Charge Time btw!), but ignoring that... Maybe, just maybe, it could be an intelligent idea to stop giving out weird numbers, percentages (or actually probably multiplication factors (if you ignore the % and multiply old PR damage values by the given factor in the patch notes, you get the results you see in game)) and just give us hard numbers. Meaning that whenever you nerf something by X%, you say what this means for the damage numbers as well. "PVP: Thorn Crit 79 dmg. Base damage buff of 1.4%, to 80 crit dmg."

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  • In the advent of the Sparrow Log Book and no futures DLCs until Destiny 2, I thought that it's time for a little bump.

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  • Too much grind. Not enough content, and it often gets left behind. Bungie often shows disregard for the community with their twisted philosophies.

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  • Not that I really care about it, but why is my thread nowhere to be found in the "most liked" section?

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    • Edited by KrazyM82: 11/26/2015 11:20:19 PM
      So where do I begin?... With this post and most likely more, I hope to bring to light a VERY IMPORTANT issue that is affecting the gaming industry and gamers as a result. Something that has been on my mind for a while. More on this later. I have been a gamer for some time. Since the Pacman days. Hopefully some of you remember! :) I have enjoyed many games since then. Asteroids, Space Invaders, Pitfall, Joust, Bomberman, Ghosts and Ghouls, Contra, 1942, Street Fighter (errrah, errrrah, errrah!) Area 51, Virtua Fighter, Tekken, Doom(where my love for FPS games developed), MechWarrior, GranTurismo, Ace Combat, FF7(don't get me started), Black, Call of Duty 3, Halo, Halo 2, COD MW, MW2 etc etc. During my time over the years playing I've noticed a trend. Video games of old were completed games, games with very little issues/bugs, that were GROUND BREAKING, INNOVATIVE and COMPLETE with LOTS of content to keep me busy for a long time. A good value for my money. Lately, I've noticed a trend that games are increasingly buggy with very little content which is extended (in bungies case replaced) with the purchase of the next dlc. Not to mention copy and paste jobs from previous games to make the "next franchise" which is, imo, a VERY lazy and shady way to make a "new game". As most people are aware by now the stories and theories of destiny being chopped up for dlcs, glitching into cut content, the 404 architect, the kotaku article, Joe Staten and Marty O'Donell leaving bungie, which interestingly enough resembles Infinity Wards creators West and Zampella leaving activision to create their own company, Respawn Entertainment...I digress. bungie has obviously made a beta game which they charged us anywhere from $60 to $100 for with so little content its not even worth mentioning. They have made a minimum viable product that neither is ground breaking or innovative. On top of that, they expect us to give feedback to help them make destiny into the game we expect!? Shouldn't that have been done already? Should I have to pay for a MINIMUM VIABLE PRODUCT to then help to design it!? Talk about putting the cart before the horse! The obvious bait and switch tactics from E3 of 2013 and 2014. The blatant lies about respecting players hard work and time spent in grinding over the last year. Voiding all the previous raids with ttk. The LOSS of content with tkk and previous dlcs. Never mind the obvious pay wall, planned obsolescence, Ponzi scheme and almost extortion like tactics used to squeeze more money from us gamers. But wait, making money is not unethical. It sure isn't!...it's THE WAY in which that money is made that is unethical... https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=Z_LE7HXLlDo But wait...other games have done the same. Games like WoW, COD etc etc. But let me ask you this...if a thing is openly practiced or done, does that make it right!? Absolutely NOT! This is where I see and fear the unethical business practice will continue if we don't do something about it. So, then, what can we do about it? The answer is simple and something that all with a responsible and conscious mind can do. Two simple things... 1) STOP Preordering. The benefits of preordering DO NOT outweigh the negative side effects that come with it. By preordering we are saying to the game producers and publishers that we don't care what quality of game you make. Every time we preorder, we are fueling and justifying the unethical business practice imposed against US. PERIOD! We are sometimes our own worst enemies. I have preordered games before, but after destiny, I now understand the error of my actions. NO MORE! No more preordering will ensure and motivate the producers and publishers to make better games. 2) BOYCOTT Vote with your wallet! Every time we give more money to companies that use such unethical business practice, we shoot ourselves in the foot! Again, giving more money only justifies their behavior and only continues the fleecing of US, the gamers. IMO, a boycott is the ONLY thing that will MOTIVATE the producers and publishers to change for the better and make the games we ALL deserve! It's obvious they want our money and we want better games...fair trade right!? They don't get anymore money until our issues are resolved. Shouldn't the BILLIONS OF DOLLARS they've made from us ALREADY be enough!? I'm just saying... Bungie is not what they used to be without Joe Staten and the MANY designers that were there during the halo days. There is no trust because they(bungie) have demonstrated THEY can NOT be trusted time and time again. Bungie has shown that they, on MANY occasions, they either ignore A LOT of good ideas from many people like Malphisto, a whole bunch of others and even Lost Sols, whom have had outstanding ideas...or that they are either incompetent or just unable to implement those ideas. Innovative rather than planned obsolescence or extortion/ponzi scheme/pay wall tactics Right!? https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/157307267/0/0 But yet they can make purple balls glow at the tower, pointless emotes and patch loot caves and fix "issues" with posts going missing REAL quick, sometimes within the same day! But yet the BIG issues go unnoticed or not even acknowledged! Issues like dedicated servers and fixing obvious lag with pvp and even pve! Optional matchmaking...don't get me started...upgradeable year 1 gear. Vault space. The loot system. REMOVAL of content for non ttk/dlc buyers. Many more issues still. But I just listed the big ones. And through all of this, what has been bungies approach to the issues they have fixed? 1 step forward and 2 steps back. And I'm not talking about Paula Abduls song neither. For every fix they create more issues, like with the increase in vault space. It was nice and should have been implemented since launch...but was instantly nullified with all the gear they made obsolete with ttk. Then again what do they care when they have our money? Previous currencies nullified with the next dlc. What do they care when they have our money? An obvious beta game for $60 to $100 was sold to us but yet they talk of potential with ttk, when IT IS, WAY PAST, the potential part. Day 1 should have been the proof! But what do they care when they have our money? HoW was bought by many just before ttk. And now all of HoW, Crota and VOG is pointless. Almost all the exotics we have now...some of them just recently found...less powerful than any green or blue weapon in ttk! But what do they care, they have our money? We ask for optional matchmaking and their response? Remove some matchmaking! Cause they already have our money! bungie has shown to us that as long as we continue to give them money, they can make any changes they want regardless if we asked for it or not, why? Because we agreed to their terms when we gave them more money. So...it's fairly obvious that no matter how many great ideas are presented to bungie...no matter how many fixes are brought to their attention...they simply don't care because they know that a lot of people are going to throw money at the screen. They have shown their intentions through their actions and in most cases, inaction! The ONLY thing that WILL motivate bungie and activision or any other company that uses unethical business practice to change for the better and learn how to treat their customers is a BOYCOTT and REFUSING to preorder. I simply refuse to pay $100 for a beta game and then tell them how to make said game better. I refuse to pay them to do THEIR job! Why should we have to pay to help make a game that SHOULD have been made ALREADY? We didn't have to pay to help make Halo or Halo 2 did we? And why should we pay to only have the rug pulled from under our feet with every "update" or dlc? So...until bungie and activision learn how to treat their customers and fix the big issues with the game I will certainly not give them more money...I will instead... [b][i]BOYCOTT BUNGIE AND ACTIVISION[/i][/b] I welcome suggestions and comments from other responsible, conscious and concerned gamers. Here's a petition that I believe will help us gamers send a message to bungie and activision, so they learn their lesson and other producers and publishers can take note to not follow suit with more unethical business practice...which will improve games for ALL gamers. If you are a conscious, concerned and responsible gamer...take a look, it's a lengthy explanation and has some great ideas! https://www.change.org/p/bungie-activision-bungie-activision-guardians-are-you-with-me-bungie-activision-enough-is-enough

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      • You misspelled Activi$ion. Just FYI.

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        • #deterafriend

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        • Destiny is poison. Just play something else. Stop being dumb, kid.

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          • Agree on the topic 100% is BUNGIE getting lazy ?

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            • Edited by oscarthepooch: 11/21/2015 7:52:13 PM
              Star wars battlefront came out today. [EDIT] Star Wars Battlefront is horrible, save your money.

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              • The title of this thread is godlike. Here, have a free like.

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                • Amazing title. And I agree completely.

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                • Just sign this guys https://www.change.org/p/bungie-activision-bungie-activision-guardians-are-you-with-me-bungie-activision-enough-is-enough?recruiter=434884538&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=whatsapp

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                • Bump. Bungie, you better tell your community what's up, cause many of us are leaving.

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                  • I've never been opposed to a good grind if I feel it is worth it, Final Fantasy was all about the grind, Tournesol on FFXII was a brutal one! Destiny's grind is not worth the time or hassle, but, I don't mind playing for fun, now and again, don't care about loot drops anymore just care about winning, finishing first!

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                  • This post gets proven week in and week out. There's a reason it's one of the highest rated... If only Bungie gave a damn...

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                    • Bump! Since Bungie once again was unable to use their own communication channels to tell their player base that the IB will end early, my thread title has been proven as being correct once again. I may want to note that I didn't play this IB, because I don't play Clash and Lord Saladin didn't sell a class item for my Warlock. So this didn't affect me in any way. It's just so sad that it happened again, after Cozmo himself said that Bungie will stop to only spread these important informations on Twitter.

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