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Edited by Pepperoni Pickle Pincher:
10/25/2015 4:26:36 AM
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Gunslinger class a little to op
Recently I've been playing a lot of crucible to see what people were talking about nerf based. I was met with 8 games straight of golden gun users who are cross mapping people on the spot. Even in sunbreaker, if I have the slightest bit of fall damage, I'm dead. No time to react because if you lock eyes with a gg your already dead.
Some proposals to even it out is make the time between shots longer. they are firing way to fast for a one hit super. Atleast with sunbreakers you have time to see it coming and move.
Another idea is to have the supers bullets go down with the super gauge. It lasts way to long for a laser like stability gun.
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Gg is fine. It is 3 shots max and goes away quick.
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8 RepliesHere's a easy way to end this conversation. Shoot a gunslinger with a shotgun or sniper he's dead. Shoot a sun breaker with any weapon in the entire game you've met your fiery death.
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Edited by SOLDIERCIDE: 10/29/2015 6:00:27 PMA Sunbreaker, complaining about Goldengun? Should we nerf nova bomb too, since it will also kill a Sunbreaker?
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Golden gun is very powerful but it's situational, I've killed a lot of golden gun users in close combat, it doesn't trigger health regen, doesn't have an armour boost so the player needs to pop it at the right time or they will die due to the delay (especially if you're at mid jump) if manoeuvred correctly, stands little chance at close range. It's not like the HoS which is strong across the board. That's just my take on it
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3 RepliesIn comparison to the other OP supers it fits right in. As far as making the game more skill based though. GG should require headshots for one hit kills on full health players. Sunbreaker is the most OP super right now, but that doesn't mean they aren't all OP.
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2 RepliesBut think about this, gunslingers get 3 shots (4 with Achlyophage). Titans get around 6 to 7 hammers, the hammers deal splash damage, can track, can cause targets to explode (yes I'm aware of combustion on golden gun but its not nearly as powerful as Explosive Pyre) and also just lasts a hell of a lot longer than golden gun. Not to mention that golden gun actually does suffer from damage drop off at a range (little known fact) and often cant even one shot a sunbreaker.
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Is he serious?
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Hah typical titans. What about sunbreaker? Or maybe nova bomb. Quit crying you have the most op class rn enjoy it while you can
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This has to be sarcasm. If not, you do realize GG has a maximum range right? And there's even a perk to increase that range. And an exotic helmet that zooms your GG sight. So if you were cross mapped he was probably max range with the perk and using the arachnid helmet.
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1 ReplyIm a warlock. Personally sunbraker needs a nerf, the golden gun has a increased range perk thats why its mapping its suppose to, on the otherhand of it 1 hits you thank god for that because i cant do that with a self-res or stormcaller because you're armor is too high and that rgen thing is ridiculous. The ram ha a 5 seccond cooldown which is what you need you can wipe out an entire team without dying this game needs to be fair. Dont come back at me defending your class like its the only thing you use in crucible because if it is then you're just a bad player because you're getting easy kills.
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2 RepliesEdited by A485258: 10/29/2015 3:32:27 PMGG should take TWO shots to down a SB in HoS. Any half assed GG user can get two shots off at a SB before a hammer floats over to them them unless the GG user is up close in which case they are doing it wrong. Comparing the two moves as if they were the same type of super is ridiculous. GG is hit scan and HoS is most assuredly not.
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Shut the hell up guys its we hunters have
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You have a max of 7 hammers when GG has max of 4. You get a superhero shield, GG does not. You regen Heath instantly when you kill, GG does not. You have tracking and proximity detonation, GG does not. It takes a bit of skill to kill someone from a distance with GG not with the hammer. Titans have a super that's basically GG and radiant skin combined. So what's more op?
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I really don't think that the GG is as bad as some people are making it out to be (in pvp), it is just being overshadowed by the shiny new sunbreaker super. On the flip side to that, I also don't think it is over powered either. The way you are describing the GG is really the absolute best case scenario, you pop the golden gun and there happens to be 3 people around who don't notice you there and have an unobstructed line of sight from you. In practice though most the time you pop a golden gun, get one quick kill and then it either runs out before you get a second/third or they OHK you before you get multiple kills. Unlike other supers there is no extra shielding and the gunslinger has no way to replenish health, so anything that could quickly kill you before can still quickly kill you. One of the major reasons you will likely not see a nerf to the GG is that it is already one of the worst PvE supers in the game. As it stands now, the GG is not that useful in most situations in PvE. Lowering its power even further would only widen the gulf of power between gunslinger and the new sub classes (I think the vanilla sub classes were fairly well balanced, but all of the TTK sub classes are more powerful than the vanilla sub classes).
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Please stop. Just stop and make no more Posts.
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5 RepliesFor all the people saying "of course he's a titan Main" what the hell do you expect? What do you want me to go to every post bitching about sunbreakers saying "of course he's a hunter main" You guys have some great arguments right there. Its sad thats the only thing you can really say against it. Just because he is a titan doesn't mean his point isn't valid. And before anyone whines about my class, yes I'm a titan, yes I'm a hammer bro, and yes I believe it isn't op. But I'm not here backing up his point or saying gg is op. I'm here saying change your fricken argument that he is a titan main and give a legit response and reason or don't post on his feed or any feed like this. Geez
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Probably the most idiotic post I've seen today. At a maximum, a gunslinger can get 3 kills from his super. At Most. A Sunbreaker can get at a maximum 6 kills. Gunslinger if anything has an underpowered super (The perks like trip mine grenade and throwing knife and triple jump sort of make up for it).
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I handle gunslingers without a massive armor boost and one hit hammer. You should be able to manage titan.
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There is a balancing mechanic in place the gunslingers have 3 shots
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I hated Titans for a while. Switched to void walker and went back to hating hunters.
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Nope still gets killed easily unlike hammers or strom caller.
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Boom nightstalker!!! No more golden gun
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I fûcking love it. Everything is OP. Everything needs a nerf. If everything is OP than nothing is OP. This has got to be satire.
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1 ReplyYou main a SB Titan and you are calling Gunslingers OP? Fvckin' hell I've seen it all now... Lol. Gunslingers don't gain additional shield or armour, nor do they have any perks to increase regen. They only get 3 shots, which by the way they have to AIM in order to get a kill, little time to actually pull off the shots and they do not do splash damage... And no.. Combustion doesn't count as that's very situational. Also, 2 of of shots are required to take out a SB HoS. It's also the one super that requires some skill to pull off and you do not gain any health/armour buffs whem you activate the super so you can ideally be killed even before you get to use it. (and you don't get to keep the super after respawn too.) tl;dr: Gunslingers are NOT OP because skills and squishyness.
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I think that due to the weak skill tree, an good super is justified.
