TLW is a great handcannon for those with skill but little guardians that use it for range and aim down the sights are really ruining the whole purpose of TLW but you can only blame bungie for that but I'm a LW user like the thorn however I've been looking for a change of pace n with these updates I won't have to hear people complain about the last word when I've only used hip fire and bungie buffed hip fire for it so it should be a fun time as for the thorn everything about the thorn is the same only the mark of the devour which isn't as op as before the base damage is the same and you will still see these hand cannons around . I know I'll still use them because they're fun to use but at the same time I'll think twice to pick another gun before I wield TLW with that dope animation thanks to balancing crucible a little more . I know this post is about TLW but I went a little more so for pve bungie..... You done f*$%ed up now~black dynamite. The gjallahorn blackhammer icebreaker and all the beloved pve weapons that were so sought after made the game so different and put destiny a tier above because of how great the community is and everything that made jumping into a fire team with 3 or 6 guardians and knowing someone had these amazing guns gave you a little relief knowing you didn't have to carry and there could be real even team work in the game and with pve and PvP being so different that is what makes destiny....Destiny.