I don't think thorn could compete against classic auto rifles when they were in their primes. Suros, when it was king of pvp, could not be beat the kickback is nonexistent and the stagger it has on head shots could knock even the best shooter of his game for a few shots and lose the advantage. Rather than a nerf to Thorn and hand cannons I'd like to see the auto rifle return to its former glory. Would that not "balance the game"? Hand cannons put in work, Pulse rifles are fairly lethal, and the return of the Auto Rifle could help neutralize Thorn. Rather than applying a nerf, which could cripple the guns (looking at you vex), the buff to the auto rifles which would just be a return to their previous stats. This would balance the game I believe as all the weapons would then be dominant and thus balanced. Can I get a hell yeah? Sorry for the long winded post I know you dummies don't like to read lol.