[i]The only objects in Halo 2 that remain untouched in some way by Havok’s magic are weapons and projectiles.[/i] Could this explain why grenades no longer launch weapons? Playing with Grenades was a minor obsession of mine in Halo. Being able to get a weapon as my opponent is left wondering could kill the moral of an inexperienced player. Blowing isn't the only thing either. I have been "Flag Tossing" for the train effect on CTF games since my UT days and never has a flag just disappeared through a floor before. This has happened to me 3 times since I started playing Halo 2 meaning that perhaps it is the Havok Engines' bug. [Edited on 3/8/2005 6:01:23 AM]