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5/3/2015 5:25:52 PM
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Automatic Pellet Rifles
The only one I've seen in Crucible and Iron Banner since the update is the Suros Regime. I don't really care if they are changed for PvP because I have Red Death and the Vex but I would like to see them improved for PvE. There's no reason they should be ineffective against thrawls.
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AR are outclassed short, mid, and long rang. You are literally playing at a disadvantage using one. Some players skill may compensate for it but I would guess most just get outgunned. I think it's kind of pathetic that bungie used time and money developing different AR just to nerf them into the ground. Then they continue to offer them as rewards for new factions, because we're going to use them? I would love to see another weapon graph on weapon usages in PVP and PVE. Let's see how the "weapon balance" is doing.
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1 ReplyI'm lucky enough to have a Silimars Wrath Stability/Crowd Control/High caliber. But still, it barely holds it's own. While the kill times are close, even as a full armor striker Titan with decent accuracy. Bungie doesn't take into account the fact that using an auto rifle means getting in closer, which means you get shot a lot more. Auto rifles (especially low impact/high rof) therefore should have a slightly faster kill time than all the other weapons to conpensate for the greater risk that comes with using one. All autos needed was a range/stability nerf, coupled with a damage BUFF to help them keep up with the higher dmg coming from mid-long range from pulse/scouts. Where's the "close range chainsaws" of which bungie spoke??
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4 RepliesBeen using the epilogue in the crucible last couple of days for the Thorn bounty Not much fun
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Pellet lol
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1 ReplyWhat do you mean, my Titan makes alot of glimmer doing delicate sandblasting with necrochasm. You can replace the clip with bottle of Windex and clean windows too. Very useful handyman tool.
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Noooooooo nerf them in everything. No one plays pve anyway. It's for idiots. Pvp pvp pvp pvp! Nerf thorn. In fact the take it out of the game. And tlw! Theu gave pvp cool guys elemental primaries and I don't see you getting new ones. This game is pvp bro. God I love pvp. I love bunny hopping with my bros. PVPVPVPVP PVPVPVPVP PVPVPVPVP
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1 ReplyReally hate Auto Rifles getting nerfed time and time again, it's the most popular Weapon Type and they were pretty nuts in nerfing it senselessly.
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10 RepliesWhat? People [i]actually[/i] still use Suros Regime in PVP? Dude, Vanquisher VIII is pretty much the only AR in the game that can still walk the walk in Crucible.
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I don't care if they're crap in PvE, just fix them for PvP! Not like it matters what gun you are using in PvE anyway since mobs practically beg to be killed.
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1 ReplyEdited by The 7th fall: 5/6/2015 5:34:25 AMBungie was able to do a PvE/PvP separate balance with shotguns by jacking up their damage by 100% in PvE, why don't they do something like that with auto rifles huh?
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I want my ARs back too. I've got a bunch of cool ones gathering dust in the vault. They only come out for Nightfalls or Weeklies with a burn on
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Got more kills with the atheon epilogue in vanguard roc. secret to destiny = right trigger.
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3 RepliesI've been using Monte Carlo today since I just got it last night from the NF and too be honest it didn't seem that awful. Just hit em in the head with 50-60% of your bullets and you can take fools out.
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It's all about the perks. [spoiler]My Up For Anything has counterbalance, field scout, and rangefinder, and it makes the SUROS a joke by comparison.[/spoiler]
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All ARs need their damage returned pre 1.1.1. The range adjustments were sufficient to balance them to their combat role.
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Edited by CLONE117: 5/6/2015 11:08:52 PMthey really do need a buff in terms of damage. especially in pve. i might get more kills than the other 2 guys combined when doing a random strike on average with an autorifle. but thats because of skill. plus im usually the one at the center of all those enemies plowing through all of them as if they were cannon fodder. whilst the other 2 sit back camping with ice breaker. ive taken to using invective more than my up for anything auto rifle no a days. of course these are on the strikes where the most common enemy is either a thrall or dreg. so of course im getting more kills than that hawkmoon user. but on more heavily armored targets my rifle is pretty much useless im better off just getting into a melee brawl with that archon priest.
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Id use suros in crucible if i could get rid of that annoying shoots slower perk (dps is a big factor for me) it seemed fairly decent untill I got that first perk -.-
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They need a very slight boost in pvp and in pve...
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1 ReplyThey really should be buffed overall imho. Not like Marius Pudzianowski buff, more Tobey McGuire ala spiderman.
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2 RepliesBump.
