Anyone who has played auto rifles in the crucible, from shadow price to suros regime, can say that at one point auto rifles ruled the crucible, except for those people who use shotguns. However, while shotguns have not recieved a crucible nerf, auto rifles have. (especially SUROS which took a huge dip in DPS). Auto rifles need to be returned to their former glory, because now they don't even stand a chance. Sign below if you agree.
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Buff AR
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Can everyone please stop spreading these exaggerations? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L7FV9l4hXo2tHD3XlFUp854XvJIwTKFIPvASLduPPS4/edit#gid=0 Numbers don't lie. There are a couple of things that are arguably OP (if you land ALL headshots): - Red Death & Stranger's Rifle There are a couple of things that are definitely OP: - Exotic Hand Cannons There are a couple of things that are definitely underperforming: - Auto Rifle's with Focus Fire and/or ARs in the Low RoF / High Impact category - This is due to the sliding scale AR nerf hitting them too hard (probably inadvertently) If you take out all of these outliers and then look at the DPS / TTK of all remaining weapons, you'll see something very interesting.... They are all almost the same. If you are a headshot machine, you'll do well with certain pulse rifles, all hand cannons, and all scout rifles. If you get way more body shots than head shots, then auto rifles and some pulse rifles are better for you to use. At the end of the day, the TTK for all guns that aren't broken is somewhere close to 1 second. Not all Auto Rifles are broken. i.e. You can't tell the difference between pre-nerf Monte Carlo and post-nerf Monte Carlo.... or Hard Light. Just stop spreading the lies. What doesn't work so well any more? Suros. There are PLENTY of other balanced choices.
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Fix it bungie
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I never thought the Auto Rifles deserved the FIRST nerf they got.
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I wreck kids with the SUROS to this day. The only gun that I consistently lose fights to is TLW. I haven't used SUROS before the patch, but at this point in time, it doesn't seem to be a bad weapon. (I use it without focused fire.)
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All auto rifle damage stats should be returned to what they were before. Suros, on the other hand, should be bumped back to maybe 33 or 34 dps instead of 36.
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ARs are way to weak. VoC puts Suros to shame.
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Super bump
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shotguns are annoying
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Bump.
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YES PLEASE
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Yes yes yes
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Yes yes yes