Crucible should be about balance and fairness. Bungie wants it to be fun for EVERYONE. :) (Or at least they should. lol) Here's what I posted about ideas for the Crucible awhile back when Inferno was around. https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/117024883/0/0/1

Special ammo is not a problem for me. It's still plentiful if you keep an eye on when it drops. Here's how to miss out on it: 1) Run your special weapon as a primary from the word go. 2) Die. 3) Spam the respawn button as much as you can. 4) Respawn then immediately sprint back to where you died, ignoring any ammo crates on the way. 5) Die.

It's pretty close. Just some work to Thorn, blink, and pulling proximity detonation and tracking

As someone who averages/averaged 1.80 k/d ratio in crucible I dislike the changes. Yes people went around with shotguns and fusion rifles all the time, but the balance of ammo meant that I as a player could be more well rounded. I could carefully choose my primary and my special weapons to balance out my engagements. My scout rifle isn't that good at close quarters so I will take a shotgun, my universal remote isn't good at long range so I will take a sniper, my pulse rifle is consistent but can't match the burst power of my opponents so I will bring a fusion rifle. Now with the limitation on special ammo I must rely on my primary weapon to fill a much greater amount of my engagement time, meaning that if I take a scout rifle into crucible than I will be vulnerable to close quarters for majority of the match. I'm not disputing that each weapon should have it's own style, but I hate being forced into scenarios where I don't stand a chance because my weapons can't match my opponents. Even with the reduction in ammo people still run around with shotguns but now it's more often the Invective that I see and other weapons to get around the lack of ammo. It's a lazy change Imo because you just reduce the amount people can use their weapons instead of balance out the underlying problems. For me in crucible it was about having weapons for specific roles and knowing when to use them. Now it comes down to playing within your primary weapons capabilities because you often have nothing else to fall back to. Truthfully though I don't like the way heavy weapons have ever been handled in the crucible. If it were up to me I wouldn't even want them in PvP because as it stands now when the ammo drops you get a spam of rockets and machinegun fire that is completely one-sided for or against you. But since they are part of the game maybe it would be better to handle them as a deployable. Each player gets one thing of heavy weapon ammo that they can trigger each match. They could choose when to use their Heavy Weapon which would allow for more selective use and could potentially add depth to strategies involving timing on when to use your heavy ammo. In closing, do I like when players never touch their primary weapon and instead Plan C all game or Felwinters lie me continually? Hell no, it's frustrating. However, at the point that the issue stands now, the special ammo count is too low and having the ammo spawn in the same spots every time leads to killboxes for those waiting to exploit player who need ammo. Should there be balances to weapons in crucible? Maybe? But in my eyes the balance should be each weapon type having it's own role to play and players able to choose between that according to how combat is playing out. I don't want special weapons to be quite as "special" as they have become now.

There isn't more of it, just more people picking it up. It's impossible not to after this new update unless you get killed right before it drops. After it drops, there's about 30 seconds or so of rocket spamming, then everything goes back to normal. Quite alright with me.

Idk, but my k/d has been steadily climbing ever since the last update, maybe because some of the skilled players are on sabbatical, or the made changes to matchmaking...nothings changed on my side...I know that much...

Wow...there are a LOT of votes and comments! Anyway, I used to think think that the crucible was horrible when it was updated. Now that I am used to it, I like being able to use my primaries like Hawkmoon and Vanquisher more. If you think that the crucible is horrible this way, give it a chance and play a few rounds. It is worth it.

So i hated the Crucible when update 1.1.2 first came out, but I've learned to appreciate it! My only complaint is that snipers need to be able to pick up more than three bullets off an ammo crate. I think an ammo crate should give you one full magazine for you secondary

Kinda a big middle finger to people who used snipers

In crucible I love using my patience and time almost like a primary. I preferred using it as my main weapon I crucible for both long range and mid range fights. I am disappointed that players who enjoyed to use a specific weapon were affected by this patch. It's sad but this patch is a final "nerf" to snipers as a series. For example, the long distance maps were taken out of the rotations. Most maps had makeovers to block long distance sniping spots. And now special ammo crates were limited to only 3-4 per map. Each crate drops significantly less ammo (P&T gets 3 ammo without the field scout). And the spawn timer for special ammo is raised. Crucible just isn't as fun to me as it once was. I feel like I'm using my heavy weapon just as much as my sniper unfortunately. Now I understand that maybe special weapons were being used too much, but couldn't bungie have just nerfed the spawn times without nerfing the amount of ammo that dropped. Or vice versa?

Well apparently Bungie got it right. The goal is to satisfy the majority of the community, and they managed it. I'm one of those satisfied people :)

I'm loving it. The ammo boxes are perfect to draw people in. Easy kills...

I still see a lot of people going through with specials only, so that's annoying, but it's cut down on that a lot. I see a lot more primaries now, which is a breath of fresh air finally.

There are more heavies because more players are grabbing them. IMO, its because they cant rely as much on special weapons. I run fusion rifles the whole game and dont have issues getting ammo(probably because I always pick them up, to make sure other players are denied) Two things that need fixing, 1) the ammo spawn. There is too much advanced warning, which is why people bunch around it. 2) the lag, its crazy that laggy players have an advantage over players with good internet connections. That needs to be reversed, and I guarantee there will be less laggy players(IE people will run wires... etc)

I'm doing way better in crucible lately. I think it's better.

The crucible is much better. Less shotgunners and [i]way[/i] less sniper sitting in the back of the map. Both are very good things. It is much harder to run around shotgunning people. However there are three things that Bungie should have added that would have made this perfect: •Buff Auto rifles. (I suggest the impact) •Remove the timers •Buff Scout rifles (I suggest rate of fire)