Why does it seem like everyone hates the crucible? Is it not fun, not interesting, or just too easy/hard? My theory is the people that hate PVP are the same people that hate PVP in every other game(which there is nothing wrong with). I mean I would understand if you don't like that type of gameplay. If it doesn't interest you to play it don't. Destiny gives the RPG community the chance to trying a first person shooter with a somewhat RPG build all while giving us aggresive Xbox(and less aggresive PSN) players the chance to do our thing. A lot of people are having a problem with lag? Im not boasting or anything but im pretty lag free and I use wireless, so is bungie the problem or could it be something else? Edit: Wow the replies are real. Thanks for all the input and point of views. Now im not saying the crucible is perfect, but is it really thaaat bad?