[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] drummer0702 It pretty much comes down to the fact that it can't be refuted. There is not enough knowledge on the topic. Also you have admitted that you doubt this is what the actual story is, so what can we really add to this? [/quote] It may not be able to be refuted but that doesn't mean it can't be discussed. I think you are getting too wrapped up in the philosophical piece I wrote. That was included so that people would have a better understanding of what I was talking about. Of that entire piece I was only asking for two conditions to be accepted (which are stated in the OP); one of which is present (and assumed accepted as not necessarily true but believed by many) in both the Halo Universe and in the real world as well. There seems to be one of two options left to you then. You can either agree with what I am posting, or you can disagree and explain the reasons why you disagree using examples. This thread was created to encourage discussion about the different possibilities Bungie could take. Although I stated that I do not think this is the explanation Bungie will use, I believe I have provided ample evidence to suggest that this is a possible scenario. If this isn't the case I welcome someone who can explain to me why that is so.