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Edited by Nemothy: 3/30/2015 11:07:08 PM
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Relic 101

So, I've recently come across a few guardians that have never used the relic. So I hope this helps. Edit: Thanks for the support everybody, I'm really glad that you are all helping this thread and other people who've never used the relic before! Edit 2: Trending at number 2! Holy smokes, thanks for all the support guys seriously!! I truly hope people who haven't used the relic can take something out of this video :) Edit 3: Officially trending at #1 Didn't think this video would get the support it did. Really glad everybody has had positive things to say about it. Edit 4: it seems like there are some people confused about the point of the video. Which is to encourage players who've never ran relic before to pick it up and try it out. I never claimed to be a "Pro Elite Relic Holder" but to everyone else who's enjoyed the video a million thanks. Edit 5: 722 views holy cow! Incredibly surprised by the amount of views it's gotten! so grateful you all enjoyed it!
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  • Couple issues I have with this video stemming from a lack of experience on the OP. First up. There IS a difference between easy and hardmode. When Oracles pop they pop 2 at a time versus 1 at at time on Easy. Second up. You state you are doing this on your hunter to prove you can do it on any character. Ok. Well how about you do it on Hard where the difficulty actually exists. Getting hit with a level 26 harpie/templar is not near as rough as being hit by level 30 variants. Third. Your suggestion in the beginning of getting a player to jump on the block to target only one oracle is a waste. You can easily have 2 guys up sitting on the upper right ledge that can wipe out both hidden oracles. This allows the extra person to shoot at more than just 1 oracle. Another issue. You tell people to jump slam the harpies. Decent tactic but not one I would use for the majority of them. It is much easier to R2 lunge melee attack them and you will stop them from shooting at you. Obviously if they are too far away just run away from them. Another thing I didn't hear mentioned. Tell the players up above NOT to shoot the harpies. You need them to build up your super quicker. The Templar enrages if you don't kill him quick enough. More issues. You have someone jumping down to help you on EASY. This is not a favorable tactic for Hard mode which the majority of players play. Also, he stops the templar from teleporting which allows you the ease of shooting rockets. Once again not something so easily done on Hard mode when you are solo down below. This action also brings out Minotaurs so if you thought it was bad with the harpies its about to get a whole lot worst when the Minotaurs join the party. Another point you missed. When you run the relic on Templar its BEST if you give a countdown to when you are going to shoot the Templar. 3 - 2 - 1 Shooting is what I usually do and this allows the people up top to time out their rockets before the detainment bubble. Also, when running the relic you have to be aware that the Templar may teleport infront of an Oracle blocking your team from shooting it - you need to make the run to kill that oracle and your team needs to notify you instant they think they can't shoot the oracle to avoid the wipe. Jesus - found another issue. You do [b]NOT[/b] want to R2 slam the Praetorian back into the Portal! This will cause him to teleport to the Conflux! You want to kill him from the side but push him towards the conflux not the portal. You'll notice right in the video it states that there was a sacrifice. This was YOUR fault and yet you are attempting to teach others? Also, To credit the points I am making - you have 38 completions. Majority most likely on Easy. I have 100+ completions. Majority of them on Hard. I've taught more people how to run the relic properly than most have completions. I can appreciate you trying to help but would have hoped for a much higher caliber tutorial this late in the game for something related to the first raid. If this was a hate message I would have just "git gud skrub" but I attempted to put in as much proper feedback as possible. I did this same exact thing to a video post about how to run the sword. Guy had a few completions and thought he was pro. I spent 20 minutes showing him all the ways he can improve - this is the same idea.

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    • Can't watch at the moment, any chance I can get a reply so I can come back later? :)

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      • Helps alot cheers

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      • I honestly don't see how people find the relic hard, I've never done Crota, but Swordbearing sounds much worse. I've done VOG Normal twice and i learned how to do relic on my first run.

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      • Hey nem. Great video. I've been worried about being relic holder honestly. But it doesn't seem that hard anymore

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        • Very informative. Thanks!

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        • Thanks for posting a video and trying to help others.

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        • My good god this topic got all kinds of salty. Did not see thing coming. So, I've gotten just about all exotics in the game, I'm still missing the Vex and Necrochasm. Other than visiting to help out new clan members, I've been spending a lot more time in the Vault than I had since TDB hit. Now that I've found myself meeting other players for vault runs I've noticed that a lot of them are either just getting around to running it or are just working off of their own observations and obviously weren't coordinating or playing near Destiny's release when the vault strats were constantly proliferating and evolving as the player base assimilated the flow of information. I didn't care for the FPS angst-a-saurus rex crap that started dominating the approach to raids and the destiny player culture during this time period but a lot of that, if any of the noise is to be believed, returned it's copies of Destiny and is off playing some modern shooter right now. It's for this reason though I was pretty tickled to see somebody helpfully address what is obviously a fresh batch of guardians in need of some VoG kung fu lessons from some salty veterans.

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        • Kewl

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        • I’m sure there is a large part of the community that thanks you for your video! I would think a lot of people have not used the Relic. So giving them some pointers was greatly appreciated. Yes, the other guy pointed out more things that could have been covered and somethings to improve on. But it was overall a good video to help show people that it is not that hard to learn. So thank you for doing this.

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        • Pro tip from myself: If your the relicrunner ( i dont know what else to call it) on the templar encounter make sure to have the VoG gauntlets maxed out. It has a perk that will recharge your super faster when killing oracles. Also having an increased intellect stat will further increase super Energy quicker. Yes i know it lowers your lvl but even on hard mode the difference is 0%. What is more important is to have your armor stat as high as possible. Same goes with recovery. For those who dont know what armor and recovery is, its found in your subclass skill tree on the right side. Feel free to check out my subclasses on my characters. Most will have an increased armor stat. [b]BUT ABOVE ALL, USE THE [u]VOG GAUNTLETS![/u][/b]

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          • Some helpful hints here, good job. One thing though isn't it easier to run down the left or right side on Mars as opposed to jumping down the stairs as to not alert the goblins at the bottom. I personally would also like to see added (not about the relic) but whoever goes mid to stop the Minotaurs during the portals, that if they go all the way to the end of the platform (past the Minotaur spawn) they can take their focus off the conflux and onto you. I personally used one void fusion and 3 fatebringer shot each Minotaur. Definitely not my idea but helpful nonetheless.

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          • Thanks for a great post. I used the relic for the first time yesterday. ..cause like all things destiny with no instructions I didn't want to pissed the team off not knowing what to do. I had some great in game instructions and it was awesome! I want to run the relic. .especially after watching your video. Great tips!!

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          • Just a tip for hard atheon... When there are two oracles left the relic holder should do one last cleanse and leave the portal before all the oracles are dead. The relic holder should be reaching the middle platform as times vengeance starts giving you a solid 5-10 more seconds with atheon

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          • bump to watch later

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            • Can someone comment so I can watch this later please.

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              • On venus try to slam the oracle before the last one and super the last one

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                • If you knock Praetorians back into the gate they transport and immediately and sacrifice to the conflux as you see in the video around the 6:20 mark then at 6:34. Just a heads up.

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                  • Great vid man, just one note on hard mode the oracles for some reason don't like to get smashed and if they do it takes a good amount of time to smash them, so to counteract this I just RT the oracles and get them in one smash, hope this helps.

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                    • Very good job on the tutorial.

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                    • One thing you forgot is stopping the Templar teleport, I know that's for more advanced relic holders but I usually stop the first teleport, then jump and swing around the two pillars (between Templar and your snipers up top) and just go back and forth between the two spots, doing it this way we've killed the Templar after dropping his shield the first time. A little tricky at first to get the motion but once you get it, it's like riding a bike. Great informative video though for inexperienced relic holders, I'll bump it so hopefully more people see it

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                      • Bump

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                      • We are now making everyone in the fireteam hold the relic. If it takes forever that just means you need more practice. I don't want to ever have to wipe again because someone doesn't know how to use it or has never tried.

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                        • On being teleported to Mars,if no one shoots or double jumps you can get to hobgoblins w/o them knowing.makes for a easy triple smash.On both teleports there's a path to the right of the stairs the relic holder can run down usually without being seen

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                          • Posting to come back later

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                            • Thoroughly enjoyed this video. I was surprised that I use many of the same strategies with the relic as you, but I did get tips on going into Mars and Venus alone to get the relics so thank you! Now if only RNGesus would be kind enough to drop me a Gjallarhorn! :) I wish the forums were filled with more informative stuff like this!

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