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Edited by Gamer ZTX: 3/28/2015 2:50:25 PM
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Last Word needs to be nerfed. Period

I am just sick of getting outgunned by this ridiculously op gun. I watched a little of the #1 player in the world she's my nerd's stream on twitch and asked him about the last word in the chat. He even said it is the only primary he uses period because it is OP and the game is unbalanced. I mean come on, it OUTGUNNED my EXOTIC THUNDERLORD MACHINE GUN at medium range so stop with that " it's an exotic it's suppose to be that good" bs. I really was just about to accept that this game has some horrible balance issues but that was the last straw. It really is a joke how unbalanced this game is. Anybody who uses a last word knows it's OP . Also anybody who uses blink shotgun knows that's OP. Blink needs at least a 2 to 3 second cool down after the FIRST jump period. Anybody who does not also use blink is immediately at a disadvantage against somebody who has mastered the cheap art of blink shotgunning. I play with quite a few people online and most of them who use a last word or who use blink shotgun don't try to defend them. They know what's op and what's not. I don't blame them. Edit: I reduced the rant and instead am offering solutions. Balance issues in the crucible are all on Bungie and only they can fix them. Here are some possible easy solutions. Solution for Last Word: Reduce damage reasonably but Increase the magazine. Solution for Thorn: I enjoy this gun but even ill admit the burn is OP) Burn only activates on Headshots. Solution for Blink Shotgun: Increase cool down after First Blink. Edit: If you blink and shotgun so be it. More power to you but it is OP. Also I'm not condemning the use of the Last Word. I don't blame anybody who uses it. But it is OP. Even the #1 crucible player in the world knows it's OP. It's all he uses. Anyways, getting outgunned by a last word with machine gun is what made me post this thread. I found this video and I'm not the only one who this has happened to and thinks the last word is OP. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hGgWSI6xmHo Edit: No other primary is winning that battle against an exotic Thunderlord. It dropped the guy in less then a second as it did me. It's what TLW does. OP. Edit: This is not a question of skill. All guns take skill to use at a high level. It's just when this gun is used at a high level, it is unmatched in most situations during the crucible, especially if a whole fire team is using it.
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    • I mean yeah at close tange you dont sta d a chance unless you have a shot gun out but from mid to long range it sucks compeared to my hawkmoon

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    • Your just bad with thunderlord. Last word doesn't stand a chance against a Heavy.

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      • I played with shes my nerd once, I recorded killing him once haha

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      • Wa wa wa wah wah wah!!!! Stfu seriously, if you got killed boo hoo... If this is what you have to complain about go jump off a bridge, no one cares about your pointless life.

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        Not nerfed. It needs its exotic perk to be fixed. Anyone who uses it knows the perk frequently triggers whilst ADS.

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        • TLW - make the range in game what the stat says it is. thorn - remove hammer forged and replace it with something else. The only problem with these guns are the range. Needing damage or the burn would be too much and make the guns unusable. Thorn still invalidates scouts and sniper rifles because of its range. TLW has shotgun range stat wise. Just make that true in game.

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        • Hawkmoon -blam!-s The Last Word. Just saying

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        • It only got you because you missed a shot, and do you hear yourself... "An exotic is OP because it shut down my exotic", isn't that what it's supposed to do? Especially since you thought you could go around destroying people with a exotic heavy, of course Last Word got you.

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        • The last word is supposed to be op in 1v1 situations it's perfect the way it is as for the other ideas just no

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        • It's in desperate need of a PvE buff however, go figure right?

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        • TLW is annoying for sure. But Thunderlord is a four shot kill in PvP. Body or headshots; doesn't matter. So if you got "outgunned" then you were shooting and missing.

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          • It shouldn't be nerfed at all. It should of been a tap to shoot gun.

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            • I actually think it should be buffed

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            • Bump!! Love the ideas

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              You have to reload every kill you get. Have to be perfect when you see two guys.

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            • To outgun the thunderlord the TLW user would have to headshot you TWICE whilst taking fire and using the aggressive ballistics perk and get a lucky bonus damage from the broken perk on it. The chances are slim and he needs to be really skilled to deal with the recoil it doesn't need nerfing you were either playing against a quality opponent or he got lucky

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              • Hahaha it's funny that half of you insulting me don't even really play crucible. You PVERs make me laugh. I keep getting the push notification on this thread because of all the outrage. You call me bitch, you call me fag, you call me stupid , petty name calling just because I'm just one of many who called for the nerf of this OP Gun. What you don't realize is that half you PVERs are the same ones bitching about your precious strikes being boring and repetitive now because of no new drops and don't realize the real replay value in this game is in the crucible where it should be a balanced arena. If you don't even really play crucible a whole lot you have no business bitching about somebody "bitching" about an OP gun in the crucible. Stick to your repetitive strikes or keep complaining that you have no reason to play the game anymore until House of Wolves. To anybody who disagrees and actually has respect, much respect. To the idiots who just resort to ignorant name calling, well you're just idiots.

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              • Edited by Andy-ALAW: 3/29/2015 1:42:49 AM
                you got outgunned using thunderlord, were you shooting into space, you must be bad

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                • Edited by PTG Kirk: 3/29/2015 1:43:18 AM
                  Umm... If you got outgunned while youre using Thunderlord, youre doing something wrong. On the topic of OP guns, you need to take into account Thorn and Red Death. Range will always beat anything in a [i]purely competetive[/i] setting. In pubs, this fact can also hold true, regardless of team composition or personal playstyle (Snipers, anyone?) So yeah, Ill agree that The Last Word is legions above other guns but theres a reason Thorn is also right behind it, its a better weapon thats harder to use than TLW and Red Death keeps both those guns from getting close to you. I think you just need to rethink how to play against TLW players who are really good. Also, understand this: Destiny PvP is not a primary weapon game; If a primary is beating you, switch to something else- A Sniper should do wonders, for example

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                  • You are on your period pal

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                  • This man is stupid, but you know what? Bungie will probably listen...

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                  • Crucible is full of Red Deaths, Thorns, Last Words and the Felwinter's Lie

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                  • Fgt

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                  • Fag

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                  • Searches for #satire-

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