Look I love multi player and the game all around but something must be done. The thorn has easily become the most powerful gun. Most powerful to the point that its cheap. The gun is so unfair in pvp that anytime you are in a 1 on 1 battle you will loose to the thorn, Unless he misses 2 shoots. Which is highly unlikely given the fact they boosted the stability as well. The gun is widely known to be powerful therfore it is being overused and abused. Every march I join now more then half of the players are using this cheap monster. I like diversity in my game playing and don't want to have to be forced to utilize 1 cheap piece of equipment just so im not out guned. Please bungie fix this cause it is destroying the fun of pvp for me. Remember pvp is supposed to be a level and balanced playing field, not a 1 sided event. P.s. I have thorn it is not hard to get. It took me 7 to 10 matches in the iron banner to get. Not difficult.
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Hush little baby don't you cry, Thorn's gonna sing you a lullaby. Two headshots is all it'll take, to make sure you wind up stone-cold dead And if that good ol' Thorn don't kill, damage over time will make sure it will Fusions, shotguns don't you fret, post mortems is what we'll get And if you're still alive, beware. There's plenty more of Thorns out there.
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Anyone else notice these posts pop up around iron banner every time?!?
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Bungie has quite the challenge here. They need to get the most effective weapons into the hands of the complainers and make it so that no one else can kill them. I really wish the "nerf this, nerf that" crowed had the personal responsibility to take a step back and admit what they're really asking for with all these "nerf" posts.
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+20 tears
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Sorry your complaint should be against shotguns. People that can string headshots with hand cannons typically have legitimate skill. Thorn is how all weapons should be. Effective if the right players hands. That's how SUROS was, it was effective but not for everyone. The only guns that are cheap are the ones that don't require aiming or accuracy yet can still get instant kills, not two shot, but instant kills. Even without the burn thorn would be a solid performing hand cannon with the right user yet people would still complain about its 80 damage per headshot. (Not a lot for hand cannons) Hand cannons are not over accurate (and haven't ever been) players have to manually move the sites and readjust. Nerf posts now piss me off beyond anything because now thanks to these posts auto rifles are useless and have 0 practicality for uses in pve or in pvp. My beloved hawkmoons sites are worthless because of an accuracy nerf that makes you pretty much intentionally miss where you are actually aiming sooooo yeaaaa.
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Edited by xholeex: 3/22/2015 10:27:00 AMHawkmoon can beat thorn
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Get better at pvp
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Please stop they've already nerfed enough exotics, what's next? Last word? Red death? Hell at this point they might as well just reset all the weapon stats the way they used to be if they nerf thorn. Guns outwork thorn, thorn takes good accuracy for it to be amazing.
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I stopped reading after Pittsburgh
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Of dear God, another PvP whinehole doing a whole lot of whinning
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TL;DR ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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Last Word can outgun thorn in 1v1 easy.
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Nah not really, anyone with a decent strife can make them miss 1-2 shots and you can take them down with just about any weapon at that point. 1v1 battle you can take them down with scouts and pulse rifles no problem, just as fast if not faster than they can pull 2-3 hits. The problem is when encounter teams of players with it. 2 man squads running them have a high chance of killing you before you can get one down, and even if you taking them down, the stupid aim assist will switch targets on you. That's annoying as -blam!-.
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Thorn buff too awesome.
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Thorn buff to powerful place on Moon.
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Sorry but I rip apart thorn users with bad juju, the mida and multiple other guns. I checked up your inventory. You gave two in the morgue and felwinter's lie. Two shotguns that are known to be ridiculous and over powered. You are wrong
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Shut up liar you don't have anything except your shitty ass
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No grimoire, no gun. You don't have it. You just die from it. Complaint ignored.
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Edited by Guiro97: 3/22/2015 3:28:59 AMNo one is forcing you to use it. Besides, it is earned via a difficult bounty so it has to be powerful. If you are skilled enough and have an effective play style then you will easily out gun it
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Before they added three bullets, everyone said it wasn't worth the effort. Now everyone just cries about how op it is.
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The only thing you really need is to fix the mag size. Make it 7-8. Then reduce the dot or something.
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It's one of the hardest guns in the game to get, if it were any less op, it would be insulting.
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I used to think the gun was godlike... Now I just put them down with any pulse rifle now. It's really not that bad. Definitely a gun that you should get but It would be a waste of that gun was all that work and didn't do a thing or two extra.