Bungies attempt to explain all the nerfing because of time to kill ratios is crap IMO. AR's are now completely useless in pvp bc they reduced range and damage (again). Apparently pvp just went from AR/HC fests to just a pulse rifle fest. Basically there was more variation in weapons used before the patch and the upgrades to dmg for pulse rifle now mean that red death is the new suros. So much for making other weapons besides AR's viable...they made pulse rifles good at the expense of everything else. Regarding pvp in general...well pvp in destiny is broken and will remain so until they get dedicated servers for pvp (instead of using someone's xbox or ps4 as the server for the group). This game is getting to be like wow...they pander so much to the whiners who want everything nerfed that they make the game just not fun to play.