By now, quite a few of us know from the grimoire that Kabr was the guardian who is responsible for the creation of the relic in the Vault of Glass. He ventured in with his fireteam, and all but him were erased from existence. The relic was created so that future guardians could survive the vault and not be lost to the dark corners of time. Now, in the grimoire, Kabr says "The next time I speak it will not be me" (or something close to that, I'm writing this at work). [b]Theory 1: Kabr is the relic, and he speaks to you in the Vault[/b] When you gain the "Time's Vengeance" buff, you'll notice you get a message on your screen in the lower left that reads: [b][i]Guardians make their own fate[/b][/i] I believe this is Kabr speaking to you from beyond and saying basically, [i]Finish what I started, you must make your own destiny[/i] We also know that Kabr's Light was essentially transmitted into what is now the relic. And this makes total sense with what I have mentioned thus far. Kabr is the relic. The relic tells you, [i]Guardians make their own fate[/i]. Remember, "the next time I speak, it will not be me". The relic is speaking to you, and although it is not [i]literally[/i] Kabr, [i]it is[/i] Kabr. [b]Theory 2: Xur is Kabr[/b] Ok, I know this may be farfetched, especially since I said Kabr is the relic, but how could he also be Xur? Well if Kabr's Light was expended in order to create relic, we might say the very essence of who Kabr is, his Light, then it is possible his physical form, if we follow this theory, was an empty shell of what it was. Look at Xur, he has a face of Darkness. Yet he is not evil, he is here to help Guardians. I won't really touch on his relations with The Nine, only to say that perhaps the Nine somehow intervened to save Kabr's body from the Vault. After all, depending on which version of the Nine is true, they are omnipotent beings of sorts. Also look at a few of Xur's quotes: --"I think it is very possible that I am here to help you. --"I do not entirely control my movements." --"Some of the cells in this body began on this world, how strange to return." --"If I am here, it is The Nine who sent me." --"My will is not my own." -- "There is something inside me that wishes to connect." As you can see these quotes relate in that Xur is both aware and unaware of his existence. He knows he exists, but does not know what for. He is there for a purpose, but he is not in control. This all ties in to the fact that Kabr lost his essence when creating the relic, therefore, he would have no memory or sense of who he was, but a shell without light, darkness, would remain. [u]That is why I think Xur is Kabr[/u] I don't want to address the Nine's involvement with Kabr if this were true, as I do not know enough yet to make a decent speculation. I may be totally wrong, but thank you for taking the time to read this. I would love to hear your theories or if you have anything to add or edit on mine. EDIT: I realized that Xur actually wears all three class items, being, a cloak, bond, and titan mark. Possible they represent the members of his fireteam?....