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Edited by Some Black Guy: 2/28/2015 6:10:44 AM
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Goku vs Superman. Science proves why Goku would win.

Goku

1793

Superman

792

Those Youtube videos (especially death battle) are miscalculations. If you want to see why Goku would win, feel free to read. This is all copied and pasted, i just found this. His research goes to show that - [b]Superman’s Peak strength[/b]: 6.6 quintillion tons-->infinity (has been shown to literally lift infinity with ultraman) [b]Goku's Peak Strength:[/b] unknown but not infinite, easily vastly more than SSJ1 [b]Superman Speed[/b] - based on what batman said:  17 billion km/hr+ = 4,722,222km/s+. Went to sun and back one minute fifty four seconds:  149,597,870.700 from earth to sun so x2 = 299,195,741.4km/114seconds = 2,624,524 km/s = top speed before needing to exert significant effort  [b]Goku's speed[/b] - Earth's diameter: 12756.2 kilometers. Goku crossed that in a second as he did on Namek (bigger than Earth so these aren't even the final results) so he can go 12756.2 km/s or 45,922,320km/hr at ss1:637,810km/s = 2,296,116,000 km/hr = 2.29 billion km/hr at ss2:1,275,620km/s =4,592,232,000 km/hr = 4.59 billion km.hr at ss3: 5,102,480km/s = 18,368,928,000 km/hr = 18.3 billion km/hr at ss4: 51,024,800 km/s =183,689,280,000 km/hr = 183 billion km/hr [b]Superman’s Acceleration:[/b] Superman has constant increasing acceleration (over time) so based on the comics his max instant movement would be: 4,722,222km/s [b]Goku’s Acceleration*:[/b] (This is again based off of the low end namek traverse speed and not the proven faster fighting speed) Base form: 12,768.2km/s^2, SSJ1: 637,810km/s^2, SSJ2: 1,275,620km/s^2, SSJ3: 5,102,480km/s^2 SSJ4: 51,024,800 km/s^2 [b]Superman’s striking power[/b] - His average punch: 1,109,840,944 psi= 7.80x10^7mt Small planet shattering punch= less than 4.78e+16mt (which is medium planet exploding power) [b]Goku’s Striking Power:[/b] Punches and Kicks ss2: 2x10^32j= 4.78e+16mt ss3: 8x10^32j= 1.91e+17mt+ ss4: 400x10^32j= 1.912e+19mt+ Kamehameha ss1=  10^32j ss2=2x10^32j ss3=4x10^32j ss4=10x10^32j x10 kamehameha= 10^34 [b]Goku's ultimate attack[/b] Super dragon fist (only using the low end number): ss3: 10e34+j = 2.39x10^18mt ss4:10e35+j = 2.39x10^20mt [b]Superman's durability:[/b] superman v. the elite = 3.58 x10^30 mt. Shadow moon = 2.39x10^29 mt Planet collision= 4.3x10^19mt. Force of earth to face =medium planet punch One shot durability on earth after fighting. Fighting doomsday w/ armor the explosion): 5.7x10^7m [b]Goku's durability[/b] SSJ2: easily withstands multiple punches that shatter medium sized planet explosion tankers ss2: 2x10^32j= 4.78e+16mt+ ss3: 8x10^32j= 1.91e+17mt+ ss4: 400x10^32j= 1.912e+19mt+ Measuring superman’s durability and other feats in space easily show that he can withstand (shadow moon feat) 2.39 x 10^29mt of force While on earth, superman’s limits are fighting doomsday w/ armor)(w/o factoring healing) 5.7x10^7mt This difference makes sense because while on earth superman must contend with the solar rays being spread out all over the planet and being absorbed by the plants animals and being bounced of the planet’s surface and into the atmosphere. However, in space superman has no one else to share that power with, but nonetheless he does run out of juice and needs to recharge. Thus, the question becomes: what would it take for Goku to kill the constantly charging battery? If the battle went to space superman would be even more difficult to defeat. But the fight would not go to space for three reasons: 1 -, Goku could not breathe in space and therefore would never fight there. 2 - nor, could superman try and maneuver goku into space because goku from ss 1 and on is quicker than superman in an instant and being a saiyan (a warrior race) has superior fighting instinct and muscle memory to wonder woman who is quicker than superman according to batman. “and nobody argues with the damned batman” 3 - If superman tried to flee the fight goku would not allow it even if superman appealed to goku’s lust for battle because although goku, like vegeta, enjoys a battle he does not let a fight prolong that he is unsure of if he can win, which is unlike vegeta. but even if you were to erroneously claim that superman has the same absorbing capacity on earth and thus the same durability as in space the result would not change: first, superman could try his infinite mass punch, but that move must be performed under the speed of light and works by the user building up mass and moving towards his opponent so the move, much like goku’s spirit bomb, would be inoperable in a battle of this magnitude. Second, he could try to beat goku to death with any combination of punches and heat vision blasts (notably this depletes his recharging energy supply) superman’s punches are capable of shattering small planets, and given his ability to infinitely increase his solar power over time or do more once he got his momentum going he could definitely break through some of goku’s durability. However, such attacks would require superman to expend a significant amount of energy. further, superman is himself clearly susceptible to punches which are on par with his own. those same punches goku demonstrates at ss2. So, could Goku survive long enough to land enough hits or one hit to bypass Superman’s durability? The kamehameha requires the user to power up the blast, so that attack could not work as a one shot kill but would reduce some of superman’s durability. Goku’s punches can be massively faster than light speed, but they would fail to bypass superman’s durability in a one shot, so what does it take to lower superman’s durability? When superman takes a hit his super dense bio-molecular structure and biol-electric aura protect him and his suit because his just above his skin. Superman’s solar energy can be depleted over time, which means his durability goes down. This can be done if superman is in the presence of kryptonite for extended periods of time, is out of the presence of a yellow sun,  or yellow sun absorbing organisms or over the course of a battle. Seeing as how certain hits will bypass superman’s durability or (and at a minimum) will cause him to weaken over the course of enduring several of those hits and thus cause his suit to be torn we can ascertain what will wear superman down. Superman exerting energy to stay under the speed of light, uses up some solar power despite constant absorption so now 10^44j explosion does very much bypass superman’s durability making superman’s clothes tear. a one shot 10^44j energy attack after superman has used up some solar power will bypass some of superman’s durability and could pierce his skin: If we look at the movies and/or gt goku has the ability to perform the super dragon fist while standing still, rushing, low on energy, or defendng. Notably goku does not even need time to focus his energy and can let it fire instantaneously without a moment’s notice being quicker that superman in an instant he would be able to land the blow, which he can even perform in base form if superman were even able to increase all of his fighting powers instantly (which time and again he has shown he cannot, that he needs time albeit a low amount of time but more time than goku’s instantaneousness) this would still drain superman’s solar energy reserves the drain on him would only make superman more vulnerable as it would deplete his durability reserves and make him more susceptible to a super dragon fist so then end the end it comes down to would a super dragon fist be able to bypass superman’s durability before goku tired out? yes because of superman’s susceptibility to blows which are equal to his own and less than goku’s capacity mainly because of the ridiculous amount of power goku expends maintaining the heightened ss3 form which is the one with the highest punching capacity and therefore form goku would likely use superman would outlast goku in that form and with out a move more penetrating finsihing move than the kamehameha goku would likely tire out and lose non manga canon goku: the one based on the manga and/or anime, movies and gt...the one death battle was using... is the clear victor. goku would be able to significantly decrease superman’s durability and pierce him with the super dragon fist.
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