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1/17/2022 4:27:27 PM
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Look, I get it, game has issues, but QoL improvements HAVE been made, and they have been made consistently all this year, game is actually much more endearing than it was at the beginning of Beyond Light. I remember the bad old times, the double primary times, the curse of Osiris times, when all changes, honestly sucked, supers sucked, abilities sucked, weapons sucked, movement was slow, clunky and awkward, everything was a massive grind and I freaking quit. I didn’t return until Beyond Light because I was like “cool ranch flavored guardian? Sign me up”, and I’ll be honest, holy hell was it pain, 120 2 taps, stasis Uber dominance, blatant hackers everywhere, season content was just boring and painful, story was pretty ok? Ok it kinda sucked, nobody cares about cool ranch fallen.
But let me tell you, game got better, changes have been slow, methodical, Bungie stopped making changes and started making improvements, they started to build their game again. There have been duds, yes, but overall, it’s been getting better, QoL, has been getting better, subclasses are becoming more distinct, buildcrafting is coming back in a good way. It’s the first time since Destiny 2 was being previewed that I’ve been excited about a Bungie release. For once, I have the ability to take Bungie at their word they are doing things to make the game better.
But believe me when I saw it, if Witch Queen is implemented terribly and indeed everything is awful. I will be playing Elden Ring, Lord Miyazaki never lost my faith, man has been making bangers for years
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We're heading back to the dark times with every update so far. Build crafting should be an optional addition to your Guardian but steadily it's becoming a need not a desire. That's bad for a lot of reasons. "supers sucked, abilities sucked, weapons sucked, " - All 3 have had their ankles taken out from under them with every systemic nerf that's come forward as time has passed. Orbs are being sunset from being intrinsic and I ain't gonna put a mod in when there's something more vital needed in it's place. Connectivity has been about as Stable as a Vase in an Earthquake. I'm at a point where very little Bungie do currently makes any sense or my faith in them is so completely eroded I will nit pick at every single decision they make. They did this themselves however. They're late with solving problems the community had answers for years previous. They're inept at being prepared. See every expansion release and the dangerously slow reaction to cheating. But for the bulk of this community it's better late than never right? Instead of get it right and quit screwing up.
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What QoL changes? You mean the bounty board we were promised to be ingame but was put on the app? Or was it the color blind mode they changed for some god aweful reason making it useless for color blind people. Honestly what QoL changes have they made
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Y’know what, I literally started writing this big list, then deleted it. Because y’know what, you seem like the kind of person who just complains because they like to complain. If you are so unsatisfied and unwilling to give credit to Bungie who has literally stated that they screwed up with the implementation of stasis and multiple other things in Beyond Light and that they would instead focus on making the base game better. Go take your time and money somewhere else, everyone involved would likely be happier, to include you, if you have something constructive to add, add it. Otherwise leave, bungie has been doing good as of late, they deserve credit for it and if they do actual bad they deserve blame. Side note: Bounty board got nixxed because nobody wanted to go to the laggy Tower. Make it an app, people can grab bounties without even logging on, it just tries to do too much and could stand to be more streamlined. And I can’t speak on the Colorblind issues, I’m not colorblind nor do I know if someone I play with is colorblind. So I won’t attack or defend a point I know nothing about. But if what you say is true and it’s not fixed Bungie [i]does[/i] deserve blame for it. I’m not here to say they are a saint and incapable of screwing the pooch, no company is perfect or even close.
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Why didn’t you write the list? Also the bounty board was supposed to be a tab just like eververse lol not something in the tower Colorblind was added as QoL change in D1 and was moved into D2, Bungie thought it would be wise to change the colors and clearly showed their lack of knowledge of colorblindness as by changing the shades as they causes issues with color blindness. A QoL change is something that makes things easier on players fixing bugs is not a QoL change, ive been playing since D2 day 1 and there really isn’t many QoL changes in 4 years
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I’ve been playing since y1 of D1, I remember colorblind mode not even being a feature till like year 2. And I don’t know who on their team is actually colorblind, so I’m not surprised if it got screwed up, but as I said I don’t have alot of knowledge on the subject so I won’t make a judgement call there. There was ALOT wrong with D1 and D2 at launch, esp D2, you want a game that only listened to player feedback? Year 1 D2, hot trash, only redeeming part was the story which was a big leg up from D1, raid, hot trash, strikes, blech, crucible, oh man, don’t get me started on double primary times where everyone moved like they had to take a dump [b]with movement exotics[/b], catalysts you needed to literally grind over the course of at least a week, so much -blam!- pain. I won’t list them because the list won’t matter here, I’ll point out ten things and you or someone else will go dig up some other bs thing and say “bungie hasn’t addressed this though! Bungie bad!” So I’ll end up spending even more time than I am already having to hunt down even the little QoL improvements. It’s beyond a disagreement in perspectives, I’ve only recently started posting again in the forums because much of the gripping is, completely unfair to Bungie. And much of the vocal community has become a rage fueled mob only concerned about feeling like they are “right” and blaming something else instead of building any sense of community or talking about anything actually going on in the next expansion or for Christ sakes, just enjoying the game and if you don’t enjoy it, quit. I did it! It was great! Now I’m back and I like where it has been going, don’t like it, there is always a dozen other games out there competing for your time, I recommend Outriders or Risk of Rain 2 or God of War if you haven’t got a PlayStation and do have a good PC.
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Ive played all those, it doesn’t matter i want the game to fail and succeed at the same time. I want it to fail because the developers need to learn their lesson with making players feel weak and trying to control every meta. I want the game to succeed because its overall concept is good but its implementation is bad because of the developers, think FOMO or vaulting, they vaulted content because “the game can get too big” but yet at the same time they have a game with messy code and at the end of the day if they spent time fixing this code they can open up alot of space or even use data compression software. So the way I criticize the developers is by saying stuff how it is, Bungie makes promises and never delivers. The bounty board? Half-assed and put in a app when it was a promised ingame tab. DLC size and quality? Well they said Shadowkeep was gonna be as good as forsaken and well it wasn’t, they said Beyond Light was gonna be as big but ultimately it was just a new subclass and a half-assed story (come on they literally didn’t address the fish or what purpose Eris and the Drifter had in the story) and relied heavily on the connected season) they are fast to patch any bugs that assist players and grinding but when its a bug that players have they take their sweet time. Hell their Help pages are useless have you ever read it? It just needs a TL:DR on it that says “Its all your fault you probably have bad internet even though you got a server side error code”
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" bungie has been doing good as of late, they deserve credit for it" I wondered if I'd see you post this.......... They don't deserve credit for doing what they should've already done months / years back.
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Yes they do, praise is deserved when something is done well. Constructive criticism when not. If you hate everything bungie is doing, go play something else, really, it’s that easy, Bungie isn’t holding you hostage, you don’t owe them money, you aren’t under contract. Yet you and people like you persist in this inane need to complain endlessly, never bothering to formulate a constructive thought. Literally Bungie could fix every problem, tomorrow, in the game and you would be here complaining Witch Queen wasn’t free because “they owe the community” Christ. Pitch in to make this game and community better or get out and find another game or god forbid, grass.
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You can't make something better when it's intrinsically poisoned. By it's dev team and it's player base. But you can limit exposure to both sides. There's very little they have done well and they get a verrrry small bit of credit for it for getting what little they have done right. At best they're late at worst they're a consistent failure. Would you get credit for being building a house then fixing support beams later that was faulty originally? No you'd make sure the support beam wasn't faulty in the first place. You're right of course they could fix everything tomorrow and I would still say "What took them so long?" If you have to ask me why........then I think we're done.
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Finally, another poster with some rationale. All it takes is a moment to just sit down and think things over. We get information from time to time, but the level of expectations from some folks (not all), is just sad to read. One would think after setting expectations and not having them perfectly met, that one would add a bit more of a realistic approach, looking at both sides of the coin. You know? [spoiler]Light, Dark. It doesn't matter.[/spoiler] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Thank you
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All hail Lord Miyazaki
