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Bearbeitet von comicl:
9/22/2019 5:11:02 PM
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Gambit prime needs a fix, especially if it stays
I might just be salty, but being invaded time after time and having no chance to rest is probably the reason gambit prime isn't getting played. Make it so one team can't invade until after the other team invades to balance the bs invades
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Yep. Getting slapped by the same player's machine gun over and over makes me sad
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1 Antworten[quote]I might just be salty, but being invaded time after time and having no chance to rest is probably the reason gambit prime isn't getting played. Make it so one team can invade after the other team has to balance the bs invades[/quote] Honestly biggest issue they've yet to address is there is no downside to invading.... they need to make it cost notes to invade instead of just having it on a timer! If you want to invade deposit 25 motes into the portal... simple but effective fix
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Bearbeitet von High Noon at Jötunn Saloon: 9/23/2019 6:32:06 PMThey never balanced invaders. It's why so many stopped playing. I can't stand Datto but he's 100% right on this one.
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What if heavy ammo was removed completely from Gambit? I see more pros then cons if it was just gone.
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Prime stays Regular goes. Invasion cooldown needed. Bungie, cares not.
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Bearbeitet von ScrubLord199901: 9/22/2019 8:04:19 PMI just don't understand why the Invader has so much power in both Gambit/Gambit Prime (more so in Prime). The Prime armor sets are weak except for the Invader. They have an extra strong shield, ammo regeneration, the ability to lock and drain motes, wall hacks and the ability to see how many motes are being carried by an individual. A lot of people argue that making the other armor sets would make them op because you can have multiple sets in one area compared to just having one Invader on the field but that can be fixed by just making it so that the effects of the other armor sets don't stack with each other. It wouldn't matter if there were four Reapers. You'll still be doing the same base damage bonus against HVTs. Doesn't matter if there are three Sentries. You'll still be doing the same set bonus damage against blockers after getting double kills. Get what I mean? Also, compaired to the Invader set, the other sets are lacking in the perk department. They're pitiful. Lets use Sentry as an example. It needs the ability to see the Invader whenever he spawns on the map no matter what but the effect only works for the Sentry. It needs a flat damage bonus against Blockers and Blockers only. It needs a flat damage bonus against the Primeval for the Sentry and all those that are within the well of light and only while they're within the well of light. As of right now, the Sentry doesn't even feel like it fulfills it's role with the current perks. The Collector set is alright to a degree but the ammo you get from banking needs to increase. The over-shield you get from quickly getting motes needs to be stronger. The 20 mote blocker needs to be a lot stronger. The Reaper needs the bottom half of it's perks to be something else entirely. The increased lifetime of motes needs to be a part of the Collector set. I could go on but I think you catch my drift. Also, why is Gambit/Gambit Prime not strictly PvE? If the PvP players have their go to playlist why can't the PvE players have one? Gambit could've been THE PvE game mode for those that wanted something fun to do that isn't PvP related. My point is that PvP needs to just be PvP and PvE needs to just be PvE. Mixing them together just isn't that great.
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4 AntwortenInvasion isn't the only issue with gambit prime. The Boss fight is still another run of the mill DPS phase. Even normal Gambit does this slightly better by making the buffs not requiring you to stand in a well.
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I'd personally just like to see the other Gambit Prime armor sets get significant buffs or reworks. The Invader set provides game changing benefits that can easily determine the outcome of the match, while the other sets just don't. An invader at 10 resilience and the overshield can survive a sniper headshot and at like 2 resilience, a rocket from Truth. If he is to have benefits as potent as that, fine. But the other armor sets should too.
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3 AntwortenGambit is fine, the problem is playing solo against 4 man teams fix matchmaking and it will solve a ton of problems P.S Gambit is the only reason i log on it's a ton of fun
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I think the fix is throwing it away. It would be ok without invaders, but with invaders its just annoying as hell. I appreciate Bungie trying to give us a new twist on straight pve or pvp, but this blend does not work.
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13 Antworten[quote]I might just be salty, but being invaded time after time and having no chance to rest is probably the reason gambit prime isn't getting played. Make it so one team can invade after the other team has to balance the bs invades[/quote] Invasion has always been an issue with Gambit and although Gambit needs to have invasions, least in my opinion, it needs to be reduced. Ironically before Prime came oot Bungie asked the community for feedback (although for months they were already getting feedback) and majority of it said, there is too much Invasions. Low and behold, Bungie completely ignored the feedback and gave us Prime.
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3 AntwortenYou get invades when depositing motes (shown on the bar) and when your enemy kills the two envoys (before the 3rd one). These help a lot in when to expect invasions and counter them as soon as they spawn (with truth ofcourse). Or you can use it when you have invader bounties or quests to do. The problem for me is the maps they're horrible.
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Invasion are too much indeed. But still prefer gambit prime then normal gambit. Because when you play solo[spoiler]matchmaking[/spoiler].. And you get some afk or headless chickens, you dont have to play 3 rounds with them.. Still dislike gambit and prime, but if I really need to choose then I play prime
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Gambit Prime? There’s not one part of D2 that doesn’t need some major work. There’s only so much time one can stand any certain part before getting pizzed off. Hate It To The Max!!!
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Heavy ammo abuse ruins Gambit. Mods. Continuous ammo spawn. And the occasional random drop. Game mode is shit and will remain shit until they make heavy ammo something the team actually has to think about in terms of how to distribute it.
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10 AntwortenProblem is not the frequency of invasions, but that it is too easy to get one man army medals using machine guns, truth, etc. Limit heavy ammo and it will become much better experience.
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1 AntwortenYeah the only problem i have with gambit prime is that how quickly someone can invade after someone from the same team just did.I get a few games where the enemy invader gets killed or runs out of time only to invade again 3 seconds later and again 3 seconds later for the third invade before they summon their prime evil,It gets annoying sometimes but apart from that I love gambit prime.
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2 AntwortenBefore touching invasions, heavy ammo needs a reduction Because the overabundance is what conflates the issue of invasion, on both ends
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20 AntwortenBearbeitet von Mythic: 9/21/2019 11:01:21 PMI’ll tell you the same thing I told the last person. Prime is the best version of Gambit. The only thing stopping either version of Gambit from being fun (for most people) is Lmg’s, Truth, Sleeper and all Linear fusion rifles. Once the range of Lmg’s gets lowered every Invader will go back to sleeper. Then they’ll nerf sleeper again and Invaders will just use a legendary linear fusion rifle. The point is they need to balance these types of weapons. No Linear should have less than a 1000 charge time excluding sleepers catalyst. Lmg’s shouldn’t be as accurate as they are, and should only have 1/4 of the range they currently do. Truth is the BIGGEST problem with gambit right now. In Rise of Iron (D1) it only had 1 rocket in the mag for a reason. Truths mag was overlooked when it was brought back into D2. If it only held 1 rocket there’d be no complaints about it whatsoever. Nerf all of the above and the only weapons Invaders will use are Jotunn or Izanagi’s burden. Nerf those and now you have to deal with 100% Golden Gun Invaders. This is all a chain reaction and all leads back to BALANCE! I agree that Sentry and Collector do not function as well as they should, but the solution is not to nerf the Invader, it’s to bring them up to Invader status. Reaper by the way is an awesome set! I know that Gambit needs a massive QoL update but classic has to go first. They are unwilling to keep both because of limited HD space on consoles. Gambit is fairly new, so I’m not surprised it’s hit so many bumps already, but it’s an enjoyable game mode either way. I don’t know when Gambit will get an update, but if you don’t like it, then don’t play it. Give it another try after it gets some tweaks, maybe bring some friends along too. Everything is better with friends! 😀
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A Jotunn user and liars handshake/ 1-2 punch users both agree... Gambit is fine! 😈
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You know a good way to "stop" invaders? Time your banking. Don't know what i mean? Read some damn strat guides for __k's sake. /future invader
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The easiest fix in my eyes is to kill the invader! Use the sentry kit, learn spawn locations and use that mini map! Also don’t kill the third envoy until after the invader comes in. 1k voices is most Useful to me (good for bosses, invading, and invaders), if an invader is behind cover it’s not gonna matter, just shoot around it. If anything lead the invader on a merry chase while your teammates get more motes....... Besides that I’ve always thought it was backwards thinking with invasions. I think when the enemy team hits their 25,50 etc... then you can invade. This would prevent snowballing and give teams more preparation for invasions
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1 AntwortenInvasions are not that frequent in prime
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Lol if it weren't staying, it wouldn't need fixing at all.
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