Over 1,000,000.....he barely has 1.6 mill health....
Edit: forget thread I was wrong oh well 🤷♂️😂
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It's possible that number was from an attempt where we'd thrown balls at him after DPS, which is where that damage came from. It was last night so I forgot about that. I'll edit the OP. It's still an easy one-phase though.
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You can’t get that number unless you threw 3 balls at him and nobody else did damage but good thing to remove it lol
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All I know is on one of our attempts I had 1,010,000 damage and a teammate had 1,150,000 damage. I just asked a teammate who was there last night and he confirmed it back to me. Either your numbers are wrong or our entire team hallucinated during our runs.
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https://youtu.be/lqkazLhknts Count the damage yourself 22,315 per shot, 13 crits 22,315 x 13 = 290,095 If you think 6 people with spindle has 1 person doing that damage but 2 others are somehow doing 3x the amount then maybe you need to refresh that 1,000,000 x 2 number 😂 like I said barely has 1,800,000 health in total
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Bearbeitet von Eden: 7/25/2018 10:19:43 PMFirst off, that's on normal, not prestige, second off, your calculations don't take the damage of the balls into account, which, if you look at the very same video you posted, do [i]at least[/i] 450,000 damage each, and does more damage depending on your greed stacks (I throw my ball at 5x greed,) and third, it's entirely possible not everyone had equal damage. We had a run last night where three people died right off the bat for DPS, and we still killed him, but wiped on his final stand mechanic because we couldn't throw enough balls. 1,800,000 divided by three is 600,000 + 450,000 for a ball is 1,050,000 damage. It is entirely plausible for me and a teammate to have gotten over 1,000,000 damage each.
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1. prestige and normal do not change damage figures for the boss 🤦♂️ 2. The 3 initial balls you throw before DPS phase do not count towards the DPS figures 3. The last 6 balls you through to destroy his shield also do not count in DPS figures 🤦♂️ 4. My point about 6x290,000 damage is that those 6 players all used spindle and will have only been 2/3 shots apart on damage so it was the point of working out his total health which would be 1.8 million roughly. 5. With the point of his health being established as 1.8 million roughly, above, it is thereby impossible for you and a team-mate to do 1 million damage each as he doesn’t have that health let alone the other 4 members of your team doing 0 damage in that equation. You can’t argue math 🤦♂️
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Number 3. Lmao, you’re a tool. How many times have you done this raid and you didn’t know the balls DO count towards the DPS damage on wipe? . 😂
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When the balls are only used on a overshield before and after, that’s not damage to the boss, how would it count as damage when his HP is at 0 🤦♂️
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Dig your hole deeper 🤓
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Bearbeitet von Eden: 7/25/2018 11:39:30 PM[quote]2. The 3 initial balls you throw before DPS phase do not count towards the DPS figures[/quote] Obviously. You're throwing them at the Calus bot, not Ca'uor. I never claimed that though, so that's neither here nor there. [quote]3. The last 6 balls you through to destroy his shield also do not count in DPS figures.[/quote] Yes they do. [quote] 4. My point about 6x290,000 damage is that those 6 players all used spindle and will have only been 2/3 shots apart on damage so it was the point of working out his total health which would be 1.8 million roughly. 5. With the point of his health being established as 1.8 million roughly, above, it is thereby impossible for you and a team-mate to do 1 million damage each as he doesn’t have that health let alone the other 4 members of your team doing 0 damage in that equation. [/quote] I'm not going to bother explaining this to you in detail again. The extra damage came from the balls. [quote]You can’t argue math🤦[/quote] You can if the logic on which that maths is based is flawed.
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🤦♂️ DPS the boss and then die without throwing orbs and screencap then DPS the boss and throw the orbs and screencap, you can say sorry for being stupid after that 👍
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Bearbeitet von Eden: 7/26/2018 7:47:35 AMYou and I both know that neither of us care enough about this argument to actually go out to get a raid team to test this, so this whole thing is going nowhere. [quote]You can’t get that number unless you threw 3 balls at him and nobody else did damage but good thing to remove it lol[/quote] I can tell from this previous reply where you say the balls [i]do[/i] count towards the final damage total that you're not actually sure if they do or not, but now you're doubling down because god forbid you get something wrong on the internet.
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That comment on the 3 balls is IF you use the 3 initial balls to dupe them then throw them to kill him 🤦♂️ I’m running spires on Saturday and Sunday so more than happy to test to prove a point, sounds like you don’t want to as you know it’s wrong like the rest of the comments on this thread saying the exact same thing I am 😂
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Bearbeitet von Eden: 7/26/2018 3:58:57 PMLooks like you can save yourself the effort of getting a group together to test it. This clip is from Redeem's world's first Spire of Stars run where they get wiped by Ca'uor's final stand mechanic after they throw the balls. Skip to about 6:45:41. Look at their damage totals on the wipe screen: [quote]- 226,909 - 745,110 - 1,190,584 - 610,451 - 622,502[/quote] Add all those numbers together, and you get the figure 3,395,556. Bear in mind this is [i]not[/i] including the damage of a teammate who disconnected before he could throw a ball. I'll put his damage at roughly 600,000, judging by his other teammates' numbers. That's almost 4,000,000 damage. We've already established that Ca'uor has about 1,800,000 base health. So where does the extra 1.9 million damage come from? [i]The balls.[/i]
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Fair enough now there’s proof 😊👍 happy to admit I’m wrong when there’s actual proof involved
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BS, you insisted on being right when you didn’t even know the facts 😂
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Happy to admit he's wrong but also happy to patronisingly use emojis and call you stupid until he does. What a joke.
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He’s a tool. Mute him.
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Seriously someone admits when there wrong and you still try to dig? 😂 fair enough. I never said it was fact hence why I said I’ll go and show it this weekend, I said why would an overshield count towards damage to a boss with 0 HP 🤦♂️ least I admit when I’m wrong 👍
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After all that time. Ha. Good for you. But would you still like too see some pics? In case it’s not good enough for you ?
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Why when it’s been proving already quite clearly? Sorry that I’ll question things with no facts or proof but with proof I’ll happily say 👍 thought that’s considered being a reasonable person questioning something with no facts but believing people with facts 👍 when facts are proven what’s there to be questioned 🤦♂️
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I really wanted you to stay in that hole 🤓 Next time don’t say you know something, when you don’t.
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Find me the part where I say ‘I know or it is definately’ 🤦♂️ As I said I questioned if he has only 1.8 mill health and has 0 hit points why would a shield and balls count as damage. That isn’t I know, that isn’t this is definately, it’s questioning something with 0 proof behind it. Next time learn to read and not deal in absolutes 👍
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Read everything. I’m no longer going to entertain you. Troll 🤫
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Bearbeitet von Eden: 7/26/2018 2:42:03 PMYou want to test it? Be my guest. Make sure you post clips and not screenshots. No cheating. [quote]sounds like you don’t want to as you know it’s wrong like the rest of the comments on this thread saying the exact same thing I am 😂[/quote] You mean the one other person in this thread who agreed with you? Right.