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Bearbeitet von The Nerf Herder: 6/13/2018 9:36:24 PM
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Once again Bungie shows it cares little for its veteran and loyal fanbase.

So...all the different armor sets that I've gone to great lengths to put together for the last year to get my characters to look a certain way based on what subclass I'm using are going to be obsolete??? This is D1 year one all over again, where we grinded raids to not only get to max level, but to have our guardians look like we want and have the right mods to get our regens and stats where we want theme. That's just an insult...and once again Bungie is not respecting the time we've invested in our characters. And why not add random rolls to year one weapons if they'll keep dropping in year two? Again, it's D1 dismissal of the time those of us have been playing from the beginning, and I've stuck with this game since D1 beta. It's no different than before infusion was introduced very late into D1's lifecycle. The weapons and armor sets we worked hard for were made obsolete every time the light cap was raised. Oh but it's nbd a lot would say...it's destiny not 'dress-tiny, ' and it's an FPS, so you don't see your character much anyway, but that's wrong; A lot of people do care, which is why so many people started playing again with the release of Rise of Iron because Adept versions of weapons and armor we introduced, and all the things we cherished that had been obsolete were viable in all activities, not just vanilla crucible. I'm a sword junkie so I see my guardian in 3rd person view a lot, and with the new emote wheel, we all see our guardians in 3rd person a lot more. Also bringing back power levels advantages to Trials and IB is another mistake. At least in year one of D2, winning in IB and Trials finally became about who was more skilled, but now even a highly skilled player is at a significant disadvantage just because an inferior player has a much higher power level. Many of us have families and jobs and/or don't get to do many raids, where most of the max power level gear comes from, so because of this we'll be penalized in IB and Trials. Power level should only matter in PVE with things like Heroic strikes, Raids and other such activities. To make it a factor in PvP makes those activities less about skill and more about who has more free time to invest into reaching max power. I loved hearing so many of the changes year 2 was bringing: being able to carry three shotguns due to the weapon slot changes, weapon perk randomization returning, improved buffs to exotic armor and being able to make exotic armor into masterworks, etc. But once again Bungie takes two steps forward, yet also one step back, and the only thing they seem to care about is luring in new players or old ones that left D2 within its first few months. It's still a constant that those of us who stuck with this game and Bungie through the first year are not appreciated, and that is unacceptable, because it was people like us who kept this game alive while Bungie got their act together. I never thought I'd be one of those people who said they've had enough, and are walking away from this franchise, but if the most loyal fans and players are not shown the appreciation we deserve, then Bungie doesn't deserve us. And I'm sure I be bombarded with comments like, 'you won't be missed.' or get over it, as the trolls love to do, so have at it...I'll keep my money, and they can continue to support a game and company that doesn't respect the loyalty those type of players have shown by staying with the game through the hard times.

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  • Bearbeitet von twisted504boy: 6/14/2018 12:38:27 PM
    Anthem will make destiny and bungie and their insane grind fest obsolete. Destiny is you must play with others to make fast progress in this game. Anthem is giving the player the choice of whether they want to play in multiplayer or make it a single player experience. In other words get with the -blam!-in times bungie because Anthem will be stealing the few people who are still around playing this game.

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    • Not from me friend, I couldn’t agree more. I think the problem is that they no longer have the necessary talent. They began hemorrhaging that talent back in 2013 when they ran Joe and Marty off. The current Bungie couldn’t copy D1 if they had 10 years to try. D2 is a pathetic attempt at copying D1. Remember what Destiny was originally billed as? THE WORLDS FIRST, EPIC MMORPG/FPS. And now? It’s a shallow FPS with garbage matchmaking. They sealed their fate when they ran off Marty (a BUNGIE FOUNDER) and Joe (damn near a founder). They had huge teams, each of them, teams responsible for all of Bungies past success...and all those people are now gone.

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      • https://kotaku.com/the-messy-true-story-behind-the-making-of-destiny-1737556731/amp

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      • Bearbeitet von Durandal: 6/14/2018 6:22:14 AM
        Ok, let's say day one of forsaken, you log in, and ALL YOUR ARMOR now has random rolls and perks, and in the process removing the masterworks mods that made sets specific towards a certain element and style of play. Let's say that also, since it is rumored that gear will once again have tiers to unlock within the perks, that the gear starts out at zero or one on the scale. How hard would you biatch and moan then? You can still keep the old gear and run it up to whatever max light there will be, as far as random rolls and perks, what do you expect to happen? They are trying to change things to allow for more of what people want, and that means old things can't exactly move on. Now, maybe, and just maybe, since you are pre-biatching before any real info is available, you would still be able to get the old gear sets through activities or vendors, but now with random perks.

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        • Remember when Bungie said they'd be rewarding Destiny veterans when D2 came out and all we got were some emblems that took 5 minutes to throw together in Photoshop? Yeah. That was the first sign of not giving a shit lol.

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        • Exactly Bro! Don't listen to people who try to say that you have no right to express your opinion or as Durandal say says "biatch and moan". I for one, think you are bang on with your comment! Cheers Bro!

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        • The issue I see is that while Random Rolls and changes to armour are being delivered as Quality of Life changes, the majority of the gear that has this is locked behind the DLC - paywalled. Yes everyone gets the update, but unless gear is put into the general loot pool for all players which comes with Random Rolls or can be equipped in other slots (e.g shotguns, etc) then they are effectively looking non DLC owners out of what should be QOL updates available to all. I think many thought that at the very least existing items dropping post the update would have random perks/mods but it seems that is not the case. This puts non DLC owners at a big disadvantage if it proves true when it comes to Crucible. Have no problem with current items acquired remaining as is but I really hope they’ve included a decent number of updated/new gear which can have the random perks for players that don’t have the DLC - otherwise it’s yet more paywalling in disguise

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          • They confirmed nothing is getting left behind 2 days ago.

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            • See ya in September

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            • There’s a reason 60%+ players left this game. There’s a reason why they’re tying to bring those players back...because less than 40% of this playerbase cannot keep this game alive nor help ensure there will be a 3rd title. Also, most of the pvp changes have been unwelcome by many folks. It seems now days that the people who enjoy the pvp changes were also the same voices who kept wanting pvp neutered in Destiny. That didn’t work out too well, Bungie learned that the hard way after more than half of this player base jumped off the boat. And if they don’t start pulling their heads out of their rumps they’re gonna learn that lesson again with their fall sales. Bungie is all about numbers...those haven’t been looking too good for over a year now. It’s time to make changes that will bring players back not push them further away. Oh, I’m sure those of you who stuck around are “appreciated”...there weren’t many so I’m sure Bungie needed you all but Bungie also realizes that the very few of you that are left aren’t enough to support this game into the future. Bungie took 20 steps back when they released D2...its only right that a year later they finally look to make the proper changes needed to bring back the people they alienated for the longevity of this franchise.

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              • Once again there's someone screaming on the forums, railing on about something he knows nothing about. If you would have looked at the destiny subforum here, you would see a pinned post from Cosmo that clear States year 1 gear will be brought into year 2. You can simply keep infusing it into the next power level.

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              • Bearbeitet von PilksUK: 6/14/2018 11:01:48 AM
                All the items from year 1 will still be usable and you can infuse them up to 600 light however they are static so no new mod system or random rolls what they are now is what you will have in forsaken, weapons will also be the same and still go in the same slots. So if you want to get a Kinetic shotgun and an energy shotgun to use with your perfect paradox you will need to buy the DLC and to get armor and weapons with the new mod system and random rolls you will need to by the DLC. Or hope that any new seasonal rewards/event items are not locked behind requiring the DLC/Annual Pass..... but dont hold out hope for that. I'm guessing they said they will not go back to update the old stuff as one thats work.... and two they want people to buy the DLC.

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              • You do know they confirmed that you can bring your year 1 stuff up to year 2 light right?

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              • I’d be more worried if I were him about how to get his lame characters from 364 to 600. 5 weeks in and still below 370. Shame, shame

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              • Trails and Iron Banner light should matter. Why am I grinding my butt off to face somebody who comes in extremely low light and destroys me with greens and blues he found in the beginning missions. Not fair in my opinion. That's why quick play is for.

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                • So you've wrote all this without knowing any details. They said nothing will ne left behind.

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                • I’m wondering how your year 1 armour is going to become obsolete?

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